Hi Kyle, > From the very first e-mail on this thread Wanda asked if why when > she added a UNC to the domain stamtement why it didn't show up in > the GUI. You said yes that looks like a bug.
She was referring to the *preferences editor*, specifically the BACKUP tab where the domain list is pre-filled with available file systems that you an add to the list. She was saying that TSM otherwise treats the share as a valid domain object, so why doesn't it show up as a selectable item from the Backup tab's list of available file system objects. And I agreed, saying that the absence of this object seemed like a bug. And by extension, I would also expect to see such a share show up in the Network part of the GUI's backup window, but yes, *that* specifically has nothing at all to do with domain. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www-306.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. "Good enough" is the enemy of excellence. "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU> wrote on 2005-11-18 16:41:16: > No *WAIT*. > > I'm not drawing any conclusions to anything. > > From the very first e-mail on this thread Wanda asked if why when > she added a UNC to the domain stamtement why it didn't show up in > the GUI. You said yes that looks like a bug. > > I disagree. I don't think it is a bug. I think that putting > something in the domain statement *DOES NOT* make it show up in the GUI. > > Sorry if my explanation wasn't clear. Now if I'm wrong and it > should then let me know that. > > Kyle > > > Andrew Raibeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Kyle, > > > Now if you think it is a bug then I'd be happy to see things in > > the GUI based on the domain statement. So I could put -C: to make > > sure the C:\ doesn't show up in the GUI and web client .... > > I think that you are attempting to establish a functional relationship, > between DOMAIN and the Backup portion of the GUI interface, that just does > not exist. > > It *is* the purpose of the DOMAIN option to establish a *default* list of > file systems to be processed by an *incremental* backup operation. > > It is *not* the purpose of DOMAIN to prevent you from backing up files on > file systems that are not part of the domain. > > To draw a parallel to the commandline, the scenario you describe is akin > to setting up your DOMAIN option like this: > > domain all-local -d: > > and then *disallowing* the following (for example): > > dsmc incremental d: > or > dsmc selective d:\mydir\ -subdir=yes > > This is just not how TSM works, or was ever intended to work. In other > words, DOMAIN was never intended to prevent you from backing up files on > non-DOMAIN file systems. Rather, DOMAIN is used to specify which file > systems are processed by default when you perform an incremental > operation. > > Having said that, if you want domain behavior from the GUI for incremental > backup operations, then do the following: > > 1) start dsm > 2) Select the "Action/Backup Domain" menu option > > The backup part of the GUI allows you to pick and choose objects to back > up, just as you can use the "dsmc incremental" or "dsmc selective" > commands to pick and choose objects for backup. Whether from command line > or GUI, there is no relationship between DOMAIN and the objects on which > you can operate by explicitly picking and choosing from the GUI or from > listing the objects in a SELECTIVE or INCREMENTAL operation. > > I think what you are thinking of is the EXCLUDE.FS option available on > Unix clients, which prevents backup of excluded file systems. > > I hope this clarifies things. > > Regards, > > Andy > > Andy Raibeck > IBM Software Group > Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development > Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: > http://www-306.ibm. > com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html > > The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. > The command line is your friend. > "Good enough" is the enemy of excellence. > > "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" wrote on 2005-11-17 > 19:03:52: > > > Andy, Sorry my point was that while the domain statment in the dsm. > > opt file does effect what is backed up from a command line and > > scheduler standpoint it does not effect what you see in the GUI and > > where you see it in the GUI. > > > > I ran a number of tests. Every time a mapped drive shows up in > > the GUI under Network even when it is not in the dsm.opt file. > > Every time a UNC never shows up under the GUI when it is in the dsm. > > opt file. I think it has always been this way. > > > > Now if you think it is a bug then I'd be happy to see things in > > the GUI based on the domain statement. So I could put -C: to make > > sure the C:\ doesn't show up in the GUI and web client or > > \\Server\SHARE so that it does show up in the GUI and web client. > > > > Again, where the mapped drives show up isn't an issue at all to > > me. It makes complete sense that they would show up under Network. > > > > Andrew Raibeck wrote: > > Hi Kyle, > > > > If the drive letter maps to a network resource, then it makes sense to > > have it show up under network, whether it's in the domain or not. > > > > I think if it is a valid resource to back up at the domain level, it > > should appear in the GUI. The command line client and the scheduler > > certainly recognize it when it's in the DOMAIN list. > > > > Regards, > > > > Andy > > > > Andy Raibeck > > IBM Software Group > > Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development > > Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: > > http://www-306.ibm. > > com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html > > > > The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. > > The command line is your friend. > > "Good enough" is the enemy of excellence. > > > > > > > > TSM_User > > Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" > > 2005-11-15 16:16 > > Please respond to > > "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" > > > > > > To > > ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > > cc > > > > Subject > > Re: TSM Win client DOMAIN statement and unc names > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andy are you sure? I don't remember seeing UNC paths that have been > added > > to a dsm.opt show up in the GUI ever. I'm wondering if the F: drive > shows > > up in Wanda's case because it is mapped and all mapped drives show up > > under Network in the GUI. I just mapped a drive without ever putting > > anything in the dsm.opt and I see it under Network. Further I added it > to > > the dsm.opt and that didn't change the fact that it only showed up under > > Network. > > > > What I'm asking is do you really think adding something to the domain > > statement, drive letter or UNC, will really have an effect on the GUI? > > > > I'm running the V5.2.3 client on WinXP > > > > Kyle > > > > Andrew Raibeck wrote: > > Hi Wanda, I would call this a bug. > > > > Regards, > > > > Andy > > > > Andy Raibeck > > IBM Software Group > > Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development > > Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: > > http://www-306.ibm. > > com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html > > > > > > The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. > > The command line is your friend. > > "Good enough" is the enemy of excellence. > > > > "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" wrote on 2005-11-15 > > 15:03:08: > > > > > I'm confused: > > > TSM client 5.3.x on Win2K: > > > > > > If I map a network drive as drive F: and add it to my dsm.opt file > this > > way: > > > > > > DOMAIN ALL-LOCAL F: > > > > > > Assuming I have the right permissions, the scheduler will back up > F:just > > fine. > > > When I open the GUI client and do edit-> preferences -> Backup, I > > > can see F: is in the domain list, and I can select it for backup. > > > > > > > > > If I DON"T map a drive letter, but I add that same drive to my dsm. > > > opt file this way: > > > > > > DOMAIN ALL-LOCAL \\host\d$ > > > > > > Assuming I have the right permissions, the scheduler will back up > > > this drive just fine. > > > But when I open the GUI client and do edit -> preferences -> backup, > > > it isn't in the domain list, and I can't select it from the GUI. > > > > > > Is this WAD? I found in the doc where the unc name is allowed in > > > dsm.opt, but can't find an explanation of the difference in the > > > scheduler and GUI behavior? > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > Wanda Prather > > > "* I/O, I/O, It's all about I/O *" -(me) > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.