Thanks Wanda, I appreciate your help!

Regards


On 9/16/2010 11:50 AM, Prather, Wanda wrote:
Here ya go:

ntbackup backup systemstate  /F "x:\pathname\ntbackup.systemstate.bkf"

Keep the /F, change the pathname to wherever you want the output to go. 
(Remember it's a big file - assume at least 700M.)

Works nicely to save it as a .bat file, invoke it through the TSM PRESCHEDULE 
option.
I've had to use it before as a permanent solution for cranky Windows boxes.

W

-----Original Message-----
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Timothy Hughes
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 11:45 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] VSS error

   Thanks Wanda,

I have never done a ntbackup (I know it's probably simple but I have
never done that). I will have to research to see how to perform that.

best regards!



On 9/16/2010 10:31 AM, Prather, Wanda wrote:
Often ntbackup will run even when TSM can't get VSS to run.

Use ntbackup on that node to create a flat file version of the system state 
backup.
That flat file will get backed up to TSM.
Then you have a complete backup, until you can get the VSS errors cleaned up.





-----Original Message-----
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Timothy Hughes
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 8:12 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] VSS error

    Hi Rajesh,

Thanks., Only problem is the node that  the backup is failing on is a
important production one and we want to get good complete backups as
soon as possible. There are nodes that are failing that we could try it
on first but in the meantime the important production system backups
will fail.

Though I understand what your saying and that's a good procedure to
follow. I wish these hotfixes were mandatory or there was some way
Tivoli could incorporate the VSS hot fixes into a  6.x.x.x client
install to clear the VSS issues up once and for all.

Best Regards
Tim




On 9/15/2010 9:16 PM, Lakshminarayanan, Rajesh wrote:
HI Timothy,

       Do apply the hot fixes in test/development system before applying it
in production system.  VSS hot fixes update some of the com components
in your windows environment which might affect your application.



Regards,

Rajesh Lakshminarayanan
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Timothy Hughes
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     Thanks Rick,

I will inform the Windows Admin to Install that Hotfix rollup

Best
Regards

On 9/15/2010 10:30 AM, Rick Adamson wrote:
I would start by applying the MS VSS hotfix rollup, many issues
resolved
with VSS in this package. Due to similar issues we experienced it is
now
part of our Win2k3 baseline.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/940349

Also, it's worth mentioning that events in the windows event log may
be
more helpful in determining the exact problem.

~Rick Adamson
Jacksonville, Fl.


-----Original Message-----
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Of
Timothy Hughes
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 10:08 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] VSS error


      Hello All,

A windows 2003 Tivoli backup client  using   5.5.2.0 is failing with
the
following

question>>     If we use the  SNAPSHOTPROVIDERFS VSS  option in the
dsm.opt  would that be a option the solve this

or do we need to install a 2003 patch?

Also, someone said that the latest Windows Tivoli backup client
6.2.1.1
eliminates VSS issues has anyone found that to be true?



09/14/2010 02:40:53 ANS1512E Scheduled event 'MIDNIGHT' failed.
Return
code = 12.
09/15/2010 02:03:14 ANS1959W Removing previous incomplete group
'\System
State\0\SystemState' Id:0-450200835
09/15/2010 02:03:18 VssRequestor::checkWriterStatus:
VssRequestor::checkWriterStatus failed with
hr=VSS_E_WRITERERROR_RETRYABLE
09/15/2010 02:03:18 ANS5268W The Microsoft Volume Shadow Copy Services
writer 'System Writer' current state (VSS_WS_FAILED_AT_PREPARE_BACKUP)
is not valid for the current operation.
09/15/2010 02:03:19 ANS5261W An attempt to create a snapshot has
failed.
Another attempt will be made to create the snapshot in 30 seconds.
09/15/2010 02:03:49 VssRequestor::checkWriterStatus:
VssRequestor::checkWriterStatus failed with
hr=VSS_E_WRITERERROR_RETRYABLE
09/15/2010 02:03:49 ANS5268W The Microsoft Volume Shadow Copy Services
writer 'System Writer' current state (VSS_WS_FAILED_AT_PREPARE_BACKUP)
is not valid for the current operation.
09/15/2010 02:03:49 ANS5261W An attempt to create a snapshot has
failed.
Another attempt will be made to create the snapshot in 30 seconds.
09/15/2010 02:04:19 VssRequestor::checkWriterStatus:
VssRequestor::checkWriterStatus failed with
hr=VSS_E_WRITERERROR_RETRYABLE
09/15/2010 02:04:19 ANS5268W The Microsoft Volume Shadow Copy Services
writer 'System Writer' current state (VSS_WS_FAILED_AT_PREPARE_BACKUP)
is not valid for the current operation.
09/15/2010 02:04:19 ANS5261W An attempt to create a snapshot has
failed.
Another attempt will be made to create the snapshot in 30 seconds.
09/15/2010 02:04:49 VssRequestor::checkWriterStatus:
VssRequestor::checkWriterStatus failed with
hr=VSS_E_WRITERERROR_RETRYABLE
09/15/2010 02:04:49 ANS5268W The Microsoft Volume Shadow Copy Services
writer 'System Writer' current state (VSS_WS_FAILED_AT_PREPARE_BACKUP)
is not valid for the current operation.
09/15/2010 02:04:49 ANS5271E A Microsoft Volume Shadow Copy Services
writer is in an invalid state before snapshot initialization.
09/15/2010 02:04:49 ANS1327W The snapshot operation for
'Soldor\SystemState\NULL\System State\SystemState' failed with error
code: 4353.
09/15/2010 02:04:49 ANS1228E Sending of object
'Soldor\SystemState\NULL\System State\SystemState' failed
09/15/2010 02:04:49 ANS5258E An error occurred initializing a VSS
request. For more information, see the TSM client error log.

09/15/2010 02:04:49 ANS1375E The snapshot operation failed.

09/15/2010 02:04:49 ANS1999E Incremental processing of '\\Soldor\d$'
stopped.

09/15/2010 02:04:49 ANS5258E An error occurred initializing a VSS
request. For more information, see the TSM client error log.

09/15/2010 02:04:49 ANS1512E Scheduled event 'MIDNIGHT' failed.
Return
code = 12.


C:\>vssadmin list writers
vssadmin 1.1 - Volume Shadow Copy Service administrative command-line
tool
(C) Copyright 2001 Microsoft Corp.

Writer name: 'System Writer'
        Writer Id: {e8132975-6f93-4464-a53e-1050253ae220}
        Writer Instance Id: {62f5e318-fc0e-4ed3-b295-942dbb5ff8c2}
        State: [7] Failed
        Last error: Retryable error

Writer name: 'MSDEWriter'
        Writer Id: {f8544ac1-0611-4fa5-b04b-f7ee00b03277}
        Writer Instance Id: {64dabe0d-1a48-4ef1-aff9-814b83b1a9f2}
        State: [1] Stable
        Last error: No error

Writer name: 'Registry Writer'
        Writer Id: {afbab4a2-367d-4d15-a586-71dbb18f8485}
        Writer Instance Id: {8210000a-191a-46e3-acb8-09884ce2998b}
        State: [1] Stable
        Last error: No error

Writer name: 'Event Log Writer'
        Writer Id: {eee8c692-67ed-4250-8d86-390603070d00}
        Writer Instance Id: {bccee1c0-6770-4368-b0b6-cef613695fb8}
        State: [1] Stable
        Last error: No error

Writer name: 'COM+ REGDB Writer'
        Writer Id: {542da469-d3e1-473c-9f4f-7847f01fc64f}
        Writer Instance Id: {11c7b420-ab2e-4616-ad09-05ab83802edf}
        State: [1] Stable
        Last error: No error

Writer name: 'WMI Writer'
        Writer Id: {a6ad56c2-b509-4e6c-bb19-49d8f43532f0}
        Writer Instance Id: {f6e85119-7db0-4698-84a3-3b2ff0e122f0}
        State: [7] Failed
        Last error: Retryable error

Writer name: 'BITS Writer'
        Writer Id: {4969d978-be47-48b0-b100-f328f07ac1e0}
        Writer Instance Id: {79d24f8e-095f-4e86-97cd-a264ff7a4988}
        State: [1] Stable
        Last error: No error


Thanks for any response in advance!

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