Have you examined the network topology altogether.  Our Exchange
environment has network hops all over the place so our networking guys
recommended adding a VLAN tag to both the TSM server and the Exchange DB
servers to do backups.  In that way, all hardware firewalls, IPS's,
load-balancers, etc. didn't get in the way of the backup stream.  Haven't
had to tweak performance on Exchange backups at all yet.  Of course, now
that I say that...

SF


On 2/10/14 11:16 AM, "Prather, Wanda" <wanda.prat...@icfi.com> wrote:

>Thank you - forgot to mention this is a Windows TSM server.
>I am curious that the drive is the bottleneck - a big file of zeros
>should compress, and give you > 200MB/sec on LTO5, yes?
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of
>Hans Christian Riksheim
>Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 9:04 AM
>To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
>Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Exchange 2010 backup performance
>
>In my experience there is nothing wrong with the TCP stack in Windows.
>Especially Windows2008R2 performs very well. For a single stream from a
>2008R2 client (dsm sel <big file of zeroes>) to an AIX TSM-server 500km
>away over 10Gig directly to LTO5 has a speed of around 200MB/ at our
>setup.
>Bottleneck being the drive.
>
>After too much experimenting I have found the critical factor to be to
>set TCPWINDOWSIZE 0 at both dsm.opt and dsmserv.opt and increase the
>tcp-sizes in AIX(and override the tcp-settings on the NIC). Windows OS
>can be left alone as its default is quite OK. YMMV of course.
>
>Regards,
>
>Hans Chr.
>
>
>On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Schaub, Steve
><steve_sch...@bcbst.com>wrote:
>
>> Wanda,
>>
>> I have fought with this problem myself, and here is what I concluded
>> (at least in our environment, YMMV):
>>
>> 1. Running single-stream backups (one db at a time) you will never see
>> the performance you expect, due to the Windows O/S tcpip stack.  I
>> haven't had a chance to stress-test Win2012-R2 yet, but at least
>> through 2008-R2, there seems to be a single-thread constraint that
>> prevents any backup from getting much more than about 20% of the
>>bandwidth.
>>
>> 2. The only way to get around this is to do as Del suggests and
>> parallelize your backups.  If you can get 4-6 concurrent jobs running,
>> you can push the network card pretty close to 100%.  The catch, as
>> Dell also pointed out, is that you can't run concurrent backups on
>> databases that live on the same disk (since the vss snap is at the disk
>>level).
>>
>> Bottom line is that you would need to divide up your Exchange
>> databases so they are on different disks (or at least, create as many
>> disks as you want to have concurrent backups, then create separate jobs
>>to backup each group).
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> Steve Schaub
>> System Engineer II, Backup/Recovery
>> Blue Cross Blue Shield of Tennessee
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf
>> Of Prather, Wanda
>> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 1:08 PM
>> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
>> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Exchange 2010 backup performance
>>
>> Del, you are a national treasure!
>> You are very kind to take time to respond.
>>
>> My backups are already very well balanced, I have 2 servers, the DBA's
>> have the DBs split between them so well that they backup almost the
>> same amount of data, and finish within 30 minutes of each other.
>>  (3.7 TB each, takes 10 hours on a 10G network, direct to LTO5 tape,
>> with /SKIPINTEGRITYCHECK specified.  Exchange DBs coming from V7000
>> disk so should be spiffy speed there.).
>>
>> I tried setting resourceutilization 10 once before, was an impressive
>> failure.  The backup appeared to be looping doing VSS snaps (or rather
>> failing to); I think it was doing as you mentioned in 2 below, trying
>> to snap the same LUN multiple times.
>>
>> Will go through the references you included, then open a performance
>> PMR if no improvement.
>>
>> Thank you so much!
>>
>> W
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf
>> Of Del Hoobler
>> Sent: Friday, February 07, 2014 6:48 PM
>> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
>> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Exchange 2010 backup performance
>>
>> Hi Wanda,
>>
>> I have a few ideas for you...
>>
>> --------------------------
>>
>> Are you running in a DAG environment? If so, you could do some load
>> balancing between DAG Servers:
>>
>> Most of this in the Exchange book under "Managing Exchange Database
>> Availability Group members by using a single policy":
>>
>>
>>
>> http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/tsminfo/v6r4/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.
>> ibm.itsm.mail.exc.doc%2Ft_dpfcm_bup_reduce_redundant_exc.html
>>
>> The key to "load balance" when setting up the scheduled backup script
>> is to have a separate invocation of each database. For example:
>>
>> TDPEXCC BACKUP DB1 FULL /MINIMUMBACKUPINTERVAL=720 /PREFERDAGPASSIVE
>> TDPEXCC BACKUP DB2 FULL /MINIMUMBACKUPINTERVAL=720 /PREFERDAGPASSIVE
>> TDPEXCC BACKUP DB3 FULL /MINIMUMBACKUPINTERVAL=720 /PREFERDAGPASSIVE
>> TDPEXCC BACKUP DB4 FULL /MINIMUMBACKUPINTERVAL=720 /PREFERDAGPASSIVE
>> TDPEXCC BACKUP DB5 FULL /MINIMUMBACKUPINTERVAL=720 /PREFERDAGPASSIVE
>>
>> Then, run this command from each of the Exchange servers at or about
>> the same time.
>>
>> --------------------------
>>
>> Here are a few more things to look at:
>>
>> To help with some performance issues, some customers have split their
>> backups into multiple "threads" or "processes" in two ways:
>>
>> 1. Increase the value of the RESOURCEUTILIZATION parameter in the
>>    DSM.OPT file for the DSMAGENT. Trying setting this to "10".
>>     Important: This needs to the DSM.OPT file for the DSMAGENT
>>                not the DP/Exchange options file.
>>
>> 2. Split the backups into multiple parallel instances of the
>>    TDPEXCC backup execution.
>>      i.e. the create separate invocations of DP/Exchange that back
>>      up a different set of databases. For example:
>>                  TDPEXCC BACKUP db1,db2,db3,db4 FULL
>>                  TDPEXCC BACKUP db5,db6,db7,db8 FULL
>>                  TDPEXCC BACKUP db9,db10,db11,db12 FULL
>>       Put these in separate command files and stagger the
>>       launching of them by 10 minutes or so.
>>       The key here is that you need to make sure that you don't
>>       have any LUNs that appears in more than one invocation.
>>       In other words, you don't want to snapshot the
>>       same LUN in separate invocations.
>>
>> Note: The integrity check is a Microsoft tool. IBM has no control over
>> the speed of that tool. DP/Exchange invokes the Microsoft ESEUTIL
>> program to perform the integrity check. It's a very I/O intensive
>> program that must examine every page of the database file (.EDB) and
>>all log files.
>>
>> --------------------------
>>
>> If none of these help, you should open a PMR to get the performance
>> team to look at your environment.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Del
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------
>>
>> "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu> wrote on 02/07/2014
>> 06:04:01 PM:
>>
>> > From: "Prather, Wanda" <wanda.prat...@icfi.com>
>> > To: ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu,
>> > Date: 02/07/2014 06:06 PM
>> > Subject: Exchange 2010 backup performance Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor
>> > Manager" <ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu>
>> >
>> > Are Exchange 2010 VSS backups affected by TXNBYTELIMIT settings in
>> > the baclient dsm.opt?
>> > Or is there anything else I can tweak to improve TSM throughput of a
>> > 2010 full backup?
>> > Got a 10G network, but Exchange full backup performance not
>>impressive.
>> >
>> > Thanks for any ideas  - links to relevant doc also appreciated!
>> >
>> > Wanda
>> >
>> >
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