a) COM+ is not going to die unless Windows dies. 

b) Indigo performance is nothing you should look at when the product is
not even Beta.

c) (to the original poster) Use ASMX by default and ES if you need the
services. Forget about Remoting's existence for the network edge unless
all you ever want is a reasonably smart data formatter for raw TCP
sockets. 


-cv

-----Original Message-----
From: Unmoderated discussion of advanced .NET topics.
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ADVO
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 2:21 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Middle-Tier Hosting: Remoting vs.
Enterprise Services

Actually, Indigo is the only communication/transaction-level platform
that
Microsoft will support.
COM+ (with Enterprise Services as well) will eventually die because
Indigo
will provide what COM+ can do and more.
Indigo will add transparency to you application regarding location,
communication way to connect to your remote object/service. The object
may
be just local, and will be efficiently called inside your process if you
wish.
It will provide transaction service using which you may execute not only
distributed transaction through internet, but also long-running
transactions
(with ability to roll-back performed operations if the transaction is
aborted).
BUT....
1. This is what Microsoft promises.
2. I wouldn't expect we will get the really reliable solution by 2005.
Microsoft planned to release beta version of Indigo in 2004.
3. And I'm now sure about performance: My colleague participated
Microsoft's
seminars regarding Indigo. Guys there presented simple communication
between
two distributed web services. The message communicated through Indigo
was
smth. like "Hello world", but he was disappointed with the performance -
it
took about 10 sec (!) per message. Of course Microsoft will improve that
but
I still worry about what we will have to work with.

Good luck,
        Roman Koreshkov

-----Original Message-----
From: Unmoderated discussion of advanced .NET topics.
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Smith
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 8:59 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Middle-Tier Hosting: Remoting vs. Enterprise
Services

I'm getting conflicting opinions on what is the best technology to host
middle-tier .NET components. Mine is a typical 3-tier scenario, with
each
of the tiers on separate boxes. I've got both internal and external
clients
that will use these services (components). I was working in an IIS
hosted/HTTP binary remoting direction, but now it's been suggested to me
that not only will Enterprise Services give me far greater productivity
(because of the ability to leverage it's services - transactions,
security,
etc), but also that it's actually the best migration path to Inidigo,
contrary to what many say (including Don Box). Also I'm told that
Enterprise Services do NOT involve interop "most of the time".

I'm just looking for any educated opinions that anyone may have on this
topic. I've read mostly negatives about ES and .NET, and never heard
that
it's the best migration to Indigo. I've got several projects coming down
the pipe and I've got to make some decisions quickly, so any input is
greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

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