Yes, you can find a lot of dissatisfaction over the new web site model in VS2005: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=project-less+web. The ASP.NET team has said publicly that they should have include Web Application Projects (a.k.a. the old model, a.k.a WAP) in the RTM release of VS2005. Unfortunately, it didn't come around until after the outcry started in earnest, and it was too late to make the ship date.
I'm using both models. One application that was running under 1.1 was extremely painful to migrate into the 2.0 model, so we decided to jump on the first release of WAP. It's been a smooth ride. I have some reservations about the "project-less" web project. There are a few scenarios where it will cause pain, even on new projects. There are also some aspects of the new model I like. There are some scenarios where the 2.0 model will actually make a developer think about design instead of hacking together code. This goes back to my post about horizontal versus vertical coupling. In 1.1 we built one monolithic assembly, and it was easy for WebFormA to have an intimate knowledge of WebFormB. In 2.0 every form, user control, master page, etc. is an island unto itself, and can build into it's own assembly. This forces developers to think about writing base classes and interfaces and actually designing a contract between a class and it's consumers. --s > -----Original Message----- > From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics. [mailto:ADVANCED- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Cowan > Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 5:04 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] VS ASP.NET 2005 > > I fear my original message turned into a debate about inline scriting.That > was not the purpose of my mail. My intention was to find out if anybody > else is disattisfied with the new Web model and like me had reverted to > the old model outlined here: > > http://webproject.scottgu.com/Default.aspx > > Or for that matter can anyone tell me why I should use the new model?? > ThanksPaul > > > > > Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 10:33:41 +0200> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] VS ASP.NET 2005> To: ADVANCED- > [email protected]> > Just out of interest, where has all the > designer code gone? I thought it> was a bit weird it had disappeared... > I'm asuming I can still get to it> somewhere and modify it?> > Cheers,> > > Ben> > > -----Original Message-----> > From: Discussion of advanced .NET > topics.> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean > Cleaver> > Sent: 18 April 2006 09:11> > To: ADVANCED- > [email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] VS ASP.NET > 2005> >> > Paul,> >> > The partial class thing is nothing to do with the > new Web> > projects - it's part of C# spec in general, and I think it's> > > a great idea - isolates the designer generated code from the> > user code > without having regions and warnings saying "don't touch!".> >> > I'm also > sticking to the old model though - primarily because> > of developed > knowledge on how it works, and with a site> > adding up to a large number > of actual pages (about 300) which> > is capable of delivering about 8000 > different looking pages> > via smoke and mirrors, I'm not about to change > it.> >> > Dino> >> > -----Original Message-----> > From: Discussion of > advanced .NET topics.> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Paul Cowan> > Sent: Tuesday, 18 April 2006 20:01> > To: > [email protected]> > Subject: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] VS > ASP.NET 2005> >> > Hi all,I was just wondering if anybody else has decided > to> > shun the new ASP.NET project model advocated by VS 2005.> >> > I am > sticking with the VS 2003 model. It is almost like they> > are trying to > cater for ASP developers (of which I used to be one).> >> > The fact that > the Global.asax file in the new web project template> > contains inline > script was enough to make my skin crawl. The appCode> > facility is > unecessary.> >> > Partial classes are I suppose ok for compartmentalising > code> > but really a smell that your class is too big.> > Anybody who > wants to stick to the superior VS 2003 model> > should look no further > than the following:> > http://webproject.scottgu.com/Default.aspx> >> > I > can't be the only one thinking this new model is just not> > the ticket?> > > Paul> >> >> > ===================================> > This list is hosted > by DevelopMentor(r) http://www.develop.com> >> > View archives and manage > your subscription(s) at> > http://discuss.develop.com> >> > > ===================================> > This list is hosted by > DevelopMentor(r) http://www.develop.com> >> > View archives and manage > your subscription(s) at> > http://discuss.develop.com> >> > > ===================================> This list is hosted by DevelopMentorR > http://www.develop.com> > View archives and manage your subscription(s) at > http://discuss.develop.com > =================================== > This list is hosted by DevelopMentorR http://www.develop.com > > View archives and manage your subscription(s) at > http://discuss.develop.com =================================== This list is hosted by DevelopMentor® http://www.develop.com View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com
