Yeah, that's what I said. Here's yours: > When a connection is "actively" refused, it means > that a machine received the request, but no one was listening.
Here's mine: > Actively refused means nobody is listening on that port. Tell me how those differ? The OP's point was that he would expect a time out if it were a firewall. That expectation was wrong because that's not how firewalls work. My point was that if a client tries to connect to port X on a server and the server receives the connection but doesn't do anything with it causing the client to time out, that would indicate that port was able to be connected to because it wasn't actively refused. That would expose *some* information to the "bad guys" that there's somebody back there on that port (unless the firewall exposed that behavior on ALL ports, even ones that don't currently have listeners, which they don't). -----Original Message----- From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Johnson Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 4:31 PM To: ADVANCED-DOTNET@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Vista Remoting Problem On 6/20/07, Adam Sills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A time out would indicate that *someone* was listening on that port but > refused to establish the connection and response, which would expose data > to > the bad guys (they'd know something was back there). Actively refused > means > nobody is listening on that port. No, that's backwards. When a connection is "actively" refused, it means that a machine received the request, but no one was listening. In my experience with sockets (extensive, actually), this is the way it works. Try closing the RDP(3389?) port using the firewall on a machine and then try connecting to it via Remote Desktop. You'll see that the request will time out. The error message being returned by remoting (with which I have very little experience) in this case is simply MS's (poor, IMO) choice of words for the socket error. -- Steve Johnson =================================== This list is hosted by DevelopMentorR http://www.develop.com View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com =================================== This list is hosted by DevelopMentor® http://www.develop.com View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com
