On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 13:05 -0500, Shawn Walker wrote:
> On Jun 22, 2009, at 10:06 AM, Philip Gorwell wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, 2009-06-21 at 23:42 -0500, Shawn Walker wrote:
> >>>> Delaying an on-disk format has been a significant advantage for us
> >>>> since it forced and allowed a refinement of the network-centric
> >>>> portions of the design.  Remember that pkg(5) was only just started
> >>>> near the end of 2007, so design and implementation have been
> >>>> occurring rapidly.
> >>>> Because of the delay, the on-disk format when it is implemented
> >>>> will be much better than it would have been had we attempted one at
> >>>> the beginning because other parts of the system have changed.
> >>>
> >>> That sounds great! :-)
> >>> Roadmap would be nice indeed. I understand it wasn't possible at the
> >>> beginning, not many resources for that. But now we're getting to a
> >>> point where Sun is extending support duration for OS.c, and talking
> >>> about Solaris Next. Having a roadmap would allow some planning
> >>> forward.
> >>
> >>
> >> 2010.02 will see a lot more polish and functionality geared towards
> >> enterprise and off-line environments.  We'll also be continuing ARC
> >> review in the near future, so I imagine you will see a much clearer
> >> roadmap then.
> >>
> >
> > I personally find the current installation options very unfortunate.  
> > The
> > Live CD doesn't offer any customization and is absolutely unsuitable  
> > for
> > server installations. The AI is good only if you've got a number of
> > servers on the same network, but you can't use it for individual  
> > servers
> > on different locations.
> 
> See below.
> 
> > As long as there is no other way for installations, OpenSolaris  
> > 2009.06
> > is no option for most of my installations and if I want OpenSolaris, I
> > have to use the latest Nevada build.
> 
> 
> Remember that you can use the distribution constructor to create your  
> own customised install with the specific packages you want, etc. all  
> on one disc suitable for off-line install.

A good tip! 
Never really look in to Caiman before, but I'll definitely try ASAP.

As I already outlined, very often I do a sever installations on
different locations. I had a small 'installation server' on my notebook,
but it didn't work well due to frequent re-installation and
re-configuration. 

Installation CD/USB without the 'desktop' packages (so NO Accessories,
Configuration and Preferences, Localization (Destkop & System),
Documentation, Display, Internet, Office, Games, Media, Panels and
Applets, Sound and Video, Universal Access, Multimedia Libraries and
others) will help, as I can add required server packages after
installation. 

Removing packages after installation is very, very painful process, also
some dependencies are difficult (eg why gnu-mc require gnome-base-libs
with all the dependencies...)

Also almost all servers use zones, so I hope to see 'native' very
soon :-)

Thanks,
-Philip


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