On 2/11/08, advocacy-discuss-request at opensolaris.org <advocacy-discuss-request at opensolaris.org> wrote: > Send advocacy-discuss mailing list submissions to > advocacy-discuss at opensolaris.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/advocacy-discuss > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > advocacy-discuss-request at opensolaris.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > advocacy-discuss-owner at opensolaris.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of advocacy-discuss digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. OSUG (hitesh rangra) > 2. Re: Core Contributor Recommendations: Joey Guo and John Jiang > (Jim Walker) > 3. FW: Wider Advocacy Initiatives (Siobhan P. Lynch) > 4. Re: advocacy-discuss Digest, Vol 9, Issue 14 (hitesh rangra) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 18:41:50 +0530 > From: "hitesh rangra" <hrangra at gmail.com> > Subject: [advocacy-discuss] OSUG > To: advocacy-discuss at opensolaris.org > Message-ID: > <d9188df00802100511g43a8d156rbe74701052ac8158 at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > sir iam hitesh kumar B.Tech second year computer science and engineering. > sir we want to setup a opensolaris user group. > Proposal for NIT HAMIRPUR OpenSolaris User Group Project > > Purpose: To drive awareness and adoption of OpenSolaris in the the > vicinity of NIT , in IN NIT HAMIRPUR, HIMACHAL PRADESH,INDIA,177005 > > Project Description: > > The purpose of this project is to spread OpenSolaris awareness within > the student and professional computing community in the area around > NIT. We perceive that a significant number in this > community will be interested in learning more about OpenSolaris and > related technologies. > > Our ultimate goal is to foster OpenSolaris adoption in labs and student > projects, and improve campus support for OpenSolaris and related > distributions primarily through education and mutual support. > > The project will archive such contributions as relevant student > projects, presentations, documentation, code, and other material to its > project space on the OpenSolaris site. > > Project Needs: > > This project requires project space on OpenSolaris.org site. The project > also requires a mailing list. > Related Projects: > > We plan to closely monitor the activities of nearby OSUGs. > > Proposed activities: > > We plan to initiate workshops and user group meetings in our area, with > a focus on promoting the competitive advantages of using an OpenSolaris > distribution for research, development, and teaching. Stage 1 of this > will be to gather membership and further support from the university and > community. Stage 2 will be active development of promotional activities, > drawing both upon local experience and materials already produced by the > OpenSolaris community. Further activities will be determined as demand > and our community grow. > > HITESH KUMAR > NIT HAMIRPUR > KBH A-209 > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 00:05:14 -0700 > From: Jim Walker <James.Walker at Sun.COM> > Subject: Re: [advocacy-discuss] Core Contributor Recommendations: Joey > Guo and John Jiang > To: Jim Grisanzio <Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM> > Cc: OpenSolaris Advocacy <advocacy-discuss at opensolaris.org>, > "Joey.Guo" <Joey.Guo at Sun.COM>, "Qingye Jiang \(John\)" > <John.Jiang at Sun.COM> > Message-ID: <47AFF3AA.2030301 at sun.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > +1 > > Cheers, > Jim > > Jim Grisanzio wrote: > > hello ... > > > > I'd like to request that the Advocacy Core Contributors consider > > granting Joey Guo and John Jiang Core Contributor status for their > > efforts to build community in China. > > > > I've worked with Joey and John on various projects for two years. Their > > OpenSolaris operations in China are not only massive but they are > > getting serious results as well. The Beijing OSUG is active and growing > > and having large meetings, the university outreach programs are engaging > > tens of thousands of students and hundreds of professors, the Chinese > > coding contest project on opensolaris.org has been very successful, the > > China portal is growing in web traffic and translations, a local > > education portal was created for additional student outreach, a China > > version of the Starter Kit has been distributed, and OpenSolaris has > > been presented at multiple conferences in multiple cities. Joey and John > > are clear leaders in all of these areas. I recommend we recognize their > > leadership with grants of Core Contributor. > > > > Jim > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 05:58:35 -0800 > From: "Siobhan P. Lynch" <trish at reliantsec.net> > Subject: [advocacy-discuss] FW: Wider Advocacy Initiatives > To: <advocacy-discuss at opensolaris.org> > Message-ID: > <9F819487C44F0B4DBDB0CC0450824CEB07E68D3C at > ehost005-2.exch005intermedia.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Typo in sent address: > > > > From: Siobhan P. Lynch > Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 8:56 AM > To: 'advicacy-discuss at opensolaris.org' > Subject: Wider Advocacy Initiatives > > > > Hi, > > > > First let me introduce myself briefly. My name is Siobhan Lynch, also > known as 'Trish" Lynch or "Pat" Lynch, during some of my more "butch" > periods in life, but I have a long history of open source advocacy and > development. Most notably I was known for my BSD advocacy work during > the late 90's and early 2000's, having written articles for Open > Magazine, Daemon News, and managed the Slashdot BSD section as > "BSD-Trish", "BSD-Pat" and "AilleCat". I also have a Emmy award for my > work in Interactive Television during the mid-2000's and now I am > working for a company that is basing a product on OpenSolaris. > > > > So I have a long history of advocacy work that is successful, and works > on a level other than "Grassroots" areas. BSD has had some great > infiltration over the last decade into areas where open source had not > been seen before. OF course much of this was riding on the heels of > Linux, but mainly it was BSD's strengths that brought it into the light > when pitted against Linux that really made a difference. > > > > I have noticed that much of the OpenSolaris advocacy efforts are in the > usergroup/grassroots areas of advocacy. It seems that we're relying upon > the popularity of Solaris during the early 90's to establish a > "nostalgia" for a working OS, without telling people on a larger scale, > what has changed, what has gotten better, why Solaris is now "Open > Source", and what the licensing models its distributed under are. Many > people have misconceptions on the licensing that keep them from using it > in commercial products and/or in their businesses. And while we know > SXCE is not supposed to be used on a production level, there are many > features that make it perfect to help small companies and developers > move in the direction they want to be moving, Solaris was a picture of > stability during the early 90's, and when people thought of UNIX, they > thought Sun Big Iron, now you can get that same power on commodity > hardware, why not scream it to the world. > > > > A few things I think that would help are things that I've seen work well > in the BSD world: > > > > One: a full list of OpenSolaris (or SXCE/SXDE/Belenix/etc.) features > (even if it's a Matrix of each one, similar to how Linux advocates do > with different distributions now). A comparison of Linux, OpenSolaris, > and BSD chart, a OpenSolaris News site, similar to Daemon News, and if > that gets large enough, talking to Jeff and Rob over at Slashdot about a > Sun/OpenSolaris Slashdot section (there has to be a demonstrated need > for this, similar to Apple and BSD sections), OpenSolaris BoFs and meet > and greets at conferences other than OSDevCon and OpSol related > conferences (ie. USENIX, SAGE, etc). > > > > I also think that the name OpenSolaris should be kept for the entire > community, this Consix/OpenSolaris debate is counterproductive, and I > say this from someone outside, looking in. I know that Sun wants to > protect a trademark it spent so long protecting, but as soon as it put > it out there, it semi-lost control, and now to take back the name would > be counterproductive at best, and leave all kinds of bad blood between > people. Let SolarisExpress be the official Sun distribution, and let the > others use "based on "OpenSolaris" which is a core set of code, similar > to how Linux is a kernel, and BSD is a toolset. > > > > Usergroups and grassroots advocacy are huge, but they only get you part > of the way there, what else is being done to "spread the word", so to > speak, among those who are not in the Choir? > > > > Interested in hearing some down and deep advocacy discussion.... > > > > -Trish > > > > -- > > Siobhan P. Lynch > trish at reliantsec.net > > Security Engineer > Reliant Security > > Mobile: 646-401-1405 > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/advocacy-discuss/attachments/20080211/d2412fdf/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 21:44:47 +0530 > From: "hitesh rangra" <hrangra at gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [advocacy-discuss] advocacy-discuss Digest, Vol 9, Issue > 14 > To: advocacy-discuss at opensolaris.org > Message-ID: > <d9188df00802110814x39ecc404w59ffd20764155e44 at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > sir iam hitesh kumar B.Tech second year computer science and engineering. > sir we want to setup a opensolaris user group. > Proposal for NIT HAMIRPUR OpenSolaris User Group Project > > Purpose: To drive awareness and adoption of OpenSolaris in the the > vicinity of NIT , in IN NIT HAMIRPUR, HIMACHAL PRADESH,INDIA,177005 > > Project Description: > > The purpose of this project is to spread OpenSolaris awareness within > the student and professional computing community in the area around > NIT. We perceive that a significant number in this > community will be interested in learning more about OpenSolaris and > related technologies. > > Our ultimate goal is to foster OpenSolaris adoption in labs and student > projects, and improve campus support for OpenSolaris and related > distributions primarily through education and mutual support. > > The project will archive such contributions as relevant student > projects, presentations, documentation, code, and other material to its > project space on the OpenSolaris site. > > Project Needs: > > This project requires project space on OpenSolaris.org site. The project > also requires a mailing list. > Related Projects: > > We plan to closely monitor the activities of nearby OSUGs. > > Proposed activities: > > We plan to initiate workshops and user group meetings in our area, with > a focus on promoting the competitive advantages of using an OpenSolaris > distribution for research, development, and teaching. Stage 1 of this > will be to gather membership and further support from the university and > community. Stage 2 will be active development of promotional activities, > drawing both upon local experience and materials already produced by the > OpenSolaris community. Further activities will be determined as demand > and our community grow. > > HITESH KUMAR > NIT HAMIRPUR > KBH A-209 > > On 2/11/08, advocacy-discuss-request at opensolaris.org > <advocacy-discuss-request at opensolaris.org> wrote: > > Send advocacy-discuss mailing list submissions to > > advocacy-discuss at opensolaris.org > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/advocacy-discuss > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > advocacy-discuss-request at opensolaris.org > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > advocacy-discuss-owner at opensolaris.org > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of advocacy-discuss digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: Proposal for Cleveland OpenSolaris User Group Project > > (Jim Grisanzio) > > 2. Core Contributor Recommendations: Joey Guo and John Jiang > > (Jim Grisanzio) > > 3. Re: Core Contributor Recommendations: Joey Guo and John > > Jiang > > (Simon Phipps) > > 4. Re: Core Contributor Recommendations: Joey Guo and John Jiang > > (Joseph George) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 11:06:54 +0900 > > From: Jim Grisanzio <Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM> > > Subject: Re: [advocacy-discuss] Proposal for Cleveland OpenSolaris > > User Group Project > > To: Tim Foster <Tim.Foster at Sun.COM>, Scott Seighman > > <Scott.Seighman at Sun.COM> > > Cc: advocacy-discuss at opensolaris.org > > Message-ID: <47AE5C3E.2060608 at sun.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > Tim Foster wrote: > > > Yep, +1 from me > > > > Thanks. That's 3. Approved. Scott, watch for mail from me off list > > setting up your project. > > > > > - in general it'd be great if there were some almost > > > automatic way for new User Groups to get approved, something like "no > > > -1s over a 1 week period, and you get created > > > > > > > I'd like to make it easier, too. I can set these things up very fast, > > so I'd like to get the voting and approvals down faster too. We've been > > following the Constitution, which states we need 3 votes from Core > > Contributors to get a project, but the Project Instantiation Policy > > encourages CGs to create their own policy for creating projects. And > > there is discussion on ogb-discuss about various conflicts creating > > projects, too. So, it's a bit confusing. But I think the Project > > Instantiation Policy gives us the most flexibility so we ought to draft > > our own process. I was hoping to avoid that. :) The best way to clarify > > is to write a one page doc like the Test guys did. We have parts of > > that, but it's not as complete and clear as theirs. I'll do that and > > send it around for comment early this week. > > > > > The only cases where I'd consider disapproving the creation of a user > > > group, is where there was another user group already existing in the > > > same locality. > > > > > > > I agree. And most people have been more than reasonable about dealing > > with any overlapping issues so far. > > > > Jim > > -- > > http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 11:29:28 +0900 > > From: Jim Grisanzio <Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM> > > Subject: [advocacy-discuss] Core Contributor Recommendations: Joey Guo > > and John Jiang > > To: OpenSolaris Advocacy <advocacy-discuss at opensolaris.org> > > Cc: "Joey.Guo" <Joey.Guo at Sun.COM>, "Qingye Jiang \(John\)" > > <John.Jiang at Sun.COM> > > Message-ID: <47AE6188.4080803 at sun.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > hello ... > > > > I'd like to request that the Advocacy Core Contributors consider > > granting Joey Guo and John Jiang Core Contributor status for their > > efforts to build community in China. > > > > I've worked with Joey and John on various projects for two years. Their > > OpenSolaris operations in China are not only massive but they are > > getting serious results as well. The Beijing OSUG is active and growing > > and having large meetings, the university outreach programs are engaging > > tens of thousands of students and hundreds of professors, the Chinese > > coding contest project on opensolaris.org has been very successful, the > > China portal is growing in web traffic and translations, a local > > education portal was created for additional student outreach, a China > > version of the Starter Kit has been distributed, and OpenSolaris has > > been presented at multiple conferences in multiple cities. Joey and John > > are clear leaders in all of these areas. I recommend we recognize their > > leadership with grants of Core Contributor. > > > > Jim > > -- > > Community Manager, OpenSolaris > > http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 06:31:44 +0000 > > From: Simon Phipps <webmink at sun.com> > > Subject: Re: [advocacy-discuss] Core Contributor Recommendations: Joey > > Guo and John Jiang > > To: OpenSolaris Advocacy <advocacy-discuss at opensolaris.org> > > Message-ID: <6CEAB8E2-E6F5-4EB2-A0A5-063AA65D8548 at sun.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; delsp=yes; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII > > > > > > On Feb 10, 2008, at 02:29, Jim Grisanzio wrote: > > > > > hello ... > > > > > > I'd like to request that the Advocacy Core Contributors consider > > > granting Joey Guo and John Jiang Core Contributor status for their > > > efforts to build community in China. > > > > As a newly-minted Core Contributor here, I'm voting +1 to both of > > these. The work they have done to promote OpenSolaris in China is > > outstanding. > > > > S. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 4 > > Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 12:09:35 +0530 > > From: Joseph George <Joe.G at Sun.COM> > > Subject: Re: [advocacy-discuss] Core Contributor Recommendations: Joey > > Guo and John Jiang > > To: Simon Phipps <webmink at Sun.COM> > > Cc: OpenSolaris Advocacy <advocacy-discuss at opensolaris.org> > > Message-ID: <A0934E21-E805-4E7A-ABCA-C84FF668531F at Sun.COM> > > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII > > > > I agree. > > > > My +1 for Joey and John as Core Contributors. > > > > ~Joe > > > > On 10-Feb-08, at 12:01 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: > > > > > > > > On Feb 10, 2008, at 02:29, Jim Grisanzio wrote: > > > > > >> hello ... > > >> > > >> I'd like to request that the Advocacy Core Contributors consider > > >> granting Joey Guo and John Jiang Core Contributor status for their > > >> efforts to build community in China. > > > > > > As a newly-minted Core Contributor here, I'm voting +1 to both of > > > these. The work they have done to promote OpenSolaris in China is > > > outstanding. > > > > > > S. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > advocacy-discuss mailing list > > > advocacy-discuss at opensolaris.org > > > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/advocacy-discuss > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > advocacy-discuss mailing list > > advocacy-discuss at opensolaris.org > > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/advocacy-discuss > > > > > > End of advocacy-discuss Digest, Vol 9, Issue 14 > > *********************************************** > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > advocacy-discuss mailing list > advocacy-discuss at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/advocacy-discuss > > > End of advocacy-discuss Digest, Vol 9, Issue 15 > *********************************************** >
