*sigh* I promised myself not to be trolled again but I can't help myself. BTW mission accomplished, you are now omgfamous on the google.
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 05:54:23AM -0500, Alex Libman wrote: > On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 10:22:56 +0100, "Paul de Weerd" <[email protected]> said: > > > > You brought it up and it was considered bullshit [...] > > "Bullshit Software Distribution"? Thanks for the idea, but, as with > "Backdoor / Buggy / Broken / Blazing-slow Software Distribution" - it's > just too mean! I actually like OpenBSD! So what I'm brainstorming for > isn't a tease but more like a term of endearment, a nickname that can be > used by people who like OpenBSD but don't like Berkeley. I think the > self-referential "BSD Software Distribution" is the best so far. I think you didn't get enough oxygen during birth, that's what I think. Now I expect that you'll get your panties in wad but still it is what I think happened. What other explanation could there be? Ultimately we won't agree on this subject but I am going to guess that you are not valuing my opinion. > > George Berkel[e]y. > > The dodo behind Subjective Idealism?! Oh, great, thanks for bringing up > yet another reason for objectivists everywhere to hate the current name. Your religion shouldn't be part of this debate. OpenBSD is an equal opportunity community where everyone's belief system will be made fun of. Including clever ones. > > So you seem to be a free software advocate, what with your copy free > > website and all. There you seem to agree with the principal of > > attribution, which I would argue the B in BSD is part of. > > It's "Copyfree" (one word, contra Copyleft), and copyfree{dot}org is not > my site. It's run by Chad Perrin, an individual far more intelligent > than myself. I was thinking of helping out, but, as you can see, my > efforts to reconcile my philosophy with projects like OpenBSD don't seem > very promising at the moment... See my oxygen theory is gaining traction. > Yes, I do believe in attribution, even for "public domain" content, but > not in eternally naming your project after whatever university where > some small and shrinking fraction of your downstream code has spend some > small and shrinking fraction of its history! OpenBSD was accomplished > by Theo and all the other contributors, and Berkeley's historic role is > hardly more significant than that of (B)ell Labs. Ah ignorance, how unexpected from a self proclaimed objectivist. Rand would be unhappy, Galt would disapprove. The horror. Since you misunderstood the books you read and had a lack of oxygen I'll make an attempt to help you here (man I feel like a Berkley hippie already). Since you weren't there to name the project, nor had any contribution one can conclude that you don't get to vote or make a name up. See objectivism in action there? > > What will you gain from changing the historic meaning of the letter B > > in BSD ? Would you change the meaning of your name ? It's heritage, > > OpenBSD is derived from the Berkeley Software Distribution. The guys > > there started this thing and created a community which is still alive > > today, even if they're not actively taking part in the development > > anymore. By now, OpenBSD is a name itself with a community of itself. > > Changing what the B stands for does not change anything from a > > practical standpoint. It only serves to deny the ancestry of the code > > and you've given no valid arguments to do so. That, plus all the > > alternatives you suggested merely show lack of creativity - you could > > at least try to be funny while trolling. > > I've made my point. You don't like it - fine, but some fraction of > OpenBSD users don't like Berkeley, and there's nothing harmful about us > coming up with alternative unofficial nicknames for the project, and I > don't see why advocacy@ is a bad place to discuss this. Some fractions of users don't like fish, some others don't like cars, others don't like hippies, yet others don't like meat (I know, insanity!). I for one, don't like this self important blathering that I can only guess I due to lack of oxygen, or more cynically, to up your google importance. > And, no, I can't be more funny while "trolling". All I have left is: > > * Blowfish / Bubblefish / Balloonfish Software Distribution > > * Bzip2's too new, stick with gzip for Software Distribution > > * Better Security than Debian / DOS > > * Bitchin' Secure Daemons > > Why don't you suggest something better? How about: Blease Shud Dup?
