On Sunday 24 Apr 2011 04:29:14 Peter Scott wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 19:08:49 -0400, Uri Guttman wrote:
> > PLEASE (i am being nice but loud) get this off the advocacy list. it has
> > nothing to do with it.
> 
> I agree. The description of this list is:
> 
> "A discussion list for Perl advocacy. There are usually success stories,
> news stories about or involving Perl and discussions about how to make
> Perl be accepted in the workplace."
> 
> Not sure where else it belongs (email?) but the current thread is a
> netiquette debate.  I can't see a sufficient relationship to advocacy.
> Feel free to create a perl-flames list :-)

Heh, well:

1. I suggested setting up a [email protected] or [email protected] (or 
maybe just [email protected]) where we move discussions that go tangential. Of 
course, I'm not a @perl.org mail admin (though I can create such list on 
Google Groups, Yahoo Groups, etc., but these places tend to have worse spam 
protection than @perl.org does[Spam].)

2. The focus of [email protected] has changed a bit since the original 
description that you quoted and now also covers some ways in which we can 
better promote Perl. And I believe that proper treatment of newcomers in the 
masters [email protected] mailing list is such an issue, and a very critical 
one. I'm aware of other mailing lists whose focus changed a bit or that 
various rules they had changed in time (for better, or for worse, naturally). 

3. I nonetheless agree that it may be of relatively little interest to most 
people here, so I suggest that Ask (CCed to this mailing list) will set up a 
$SOMETHING-cafe mailing list on @perl.org.

4. It's possible Uri referred to the fact that I went out-of-line in the 
discussion of Ethics-vs.-Law, which is off-topic and inappropriate here, and I 
apologise for that (I got carried away). So let's drop this particular 
discussion. 

Regards,

        Shlomi Fish

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