I totaly agree with you. I'm a big Google fan too but so surprised the
could come up with something like the new API. It is the exact
opposite of what google is all about "Simplicity"...
I hope someone will answer to clarify the situation... Maybe that
wasn't just a Cylon plan :-) Maybe they are really good reasons for
that. But please, explain them !
On Apr 22, 6:15 pm, miracl <mir...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I finally took care of the migration to v2009 yesterday(yeah i know,
> doing it at the very last moment, lots of projects aside)
> I run adwords for like 100 customers, using budgetoptimizer,
> conversion optimizer, pulling stats, adjusting budget, and many other
> thing.
> So it was quite a work to migrate everything, cause i use a lot of
> function from the api.
>
> Still, I have a question for the google engineers, and it s not a
> troll i m about to do, this is really a question that i keep asking
> me, without finding any answer.
>
> After dying on google searching for examples on
> "How can i set the budget optimizer with a CPC bid limit on my
> campaign", i used one of the google example for the
> conversionoptimizer, tweaked and adjusted it, and came out with
> that :
>
> $campaignService = $user->GetCampaignService('v200909');
> $campaign = new Campaign();
> $campaign->id = $idGoogleCampaign;
>
> $BiddingTransition = new BiddingTransition();
> $budgetOptimizer = new BudgetOptimizer();
> $budgetOptimizer->bidCeiling = new Money($bidCeiling);
> $BiddingTransition->targetBiddingStrategy =$budgetOptimizer;
>
> $operation = new CampaignOperation();
> $operation->biddingTransition = $BiddingTransition;
> $operation->operand = $campaign;
> $operation->operator = 'SET';
>
> $operations=array($operation);
> $result = $campaignService->mutate($operations);
>
> And it works ! i think it s the first example on the internet about
> that...
>
> My question now :
> GoogleAdword engineers, for the sake of gods, what is your secret
> cylon plan ?
> 576 characters, 13 lines of codes, overcomplex/veryartistic/
> totallyoverkill (<=choose one from these)
>
> I know i may sound a bit harsh, but if I plan on letting others
> accessing an API of my system, and if i have the money to hire some
> good programmers, here s how i d do it :
>
> Solution 1 : Make a very very very simple API that allows programmers
> to quickly and efficiently get the job done.
>
> Solution 2 : Make art, like you did, cause i have to admit it, it s
> really more beautiful than the v13, no more xml everywhere in the
> code, that's better, we get some functions and object now(well, it
> cost 37Megs of library on the hard disk, but hey, the megabyte is
> cheap nowadays, needs a very last version of php not even present on
> the standard ubuntu distribution, but hey, we developpers have the
> time to tweak around in linux to meet your advanced requirement....)
>
> But with solution 2, like you did, well, if I actually want people to
> use it, i d give example for quite everything, not 33 examples script
> with random operations, when there are hundreds possible operations.
>
> About solution 1 : here's a hint for the same operation, not with 13
> lines, but with 2 :
> $campaign=new Campaign($id);
> $campaign->setBiddingStrategy('BudgetOptimizer',$maxcpa);
>
> What's wrong with that ? and dont tell me about bulk operations, cause
> it could be very simple to implement it with the same simplicity in
> mind.
>
> next time, warn us :
> We give you 100 days to completly understand what's in our minds with
> that new api, so you ll be able to guess how to work with it, cause we
> re not going to give you all the examples, who needs examples
> anyway ! :)
>
> Dont take me wrong, or do it if you like :), i m a big fan of google,
> I search with google, i do websites with googlemaps, i use gmail
> everyday(everyhour:)), I get almost all of my search traffic from
> google, adwords are a fantastic and very nearperfect
> project( contentnetwork set aside, dont get me started on this ).
> And the api allows to do anything a programmer would want, but please,
> keep it simple.
> Google is simplicity, look at the search page, look at the basic
> pagerank idea, simple yet more powerful than any other complex idea
> searchengines had before google came to our world.
>
> just my 2 cents.
> Good side : the new api is a lot faster(but is it because so much less
> programmers are able to work with it ? was that the real purpose of
> the v2009 :), just check the numbers if you have access to them, and
> proove me wrong ! :))
>
> miracl
>
> ps : accept my apologies if I offended you, that was not the purpose,
> the purpose is just to give a feedback from the field, where we
> developpers, are fighting ! :)
>
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