On Thursday 15 July 2010, axum elucidated thus:
> i am having a brain freeze here I need to use the
> updateadgroupcriterion service.  And I am at a lost on how to get the
> criterionid.

ga.AdGroupCriterion.get(...) should be what you want.  you can filter by 
campaign, group, etc.

Docs here:
http://code.google.com/apis/adwords/v2009/docs/reference/AdGroupAdService.html
and
http://code.google.com/apis/adwords/v2009/docs/reference/AdGroupAdService.AdGroupAdSelector.html

j

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