Hi Jonah, Thank you for giving us some insight into the way cross-client reporting is used and the importance it has to your business. Regarding your questions:
1) I don't have any information about features of the AdWords web interface. These questions should be directed to the general AdWords forum: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/AdWords?hl=en 2) Ditto. 3) There are plans for the v2010 reporting system to support cross- client reports. 4) I don't have any estimates as to when this functionality will be ready, but I know it is actively being worked on. The same information available in cross-client reports can be obtained by making many single-client reports and aggregating together the data client-side. Because of how much faster the v2010 reporting system we believe that this process may actually take less time then using the cross-client feature of the v13 reporting system. What are the barriers you see to implementing such a system? Best, - Eric On Nov 10, 11:45 am, jonahviakeyboard <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Eric, > > The word 'client' has more than one meaning. I think that's part of > where the trouble originates. To the API, it refers to an account > number. But in the agency parlance (and in a setup with nested MCCs), > the client is an organization. That organization often has many Google > account numbers; 'cross-client' reporting has become the expectation. > > The MCC's has been used to group accounts (which may represent > franchises, locations, divisions, etc.) of the same physical client > for years. The elimination of the Report Center undermines the MCC's > organizational capabilities, by the API's inability to deliver > information at the group level. With organizational structures long > standing and very resistant to change, the elimination of the Report > Center brings the API's shortcomings to center stage. > > I'm sorry my last response whined - not my intent. I understand that > there's no way the Report Center will be preserved, or that the API > will be improved in time. My objective is to explain how agencies rely > on the MCC organizationally for group reporting uses - not just > consolidated billing, campaign management, or user access. Hopefully, > the reporting uses will be considered in the next version of the API. > > A few answers will help me prepare for the future. > 1) On what date will the Report Center be eliminated? > 2) On this date, will all grandfathered scheduled emails cease to > include attachments? (I expect yes, but worth asking) > 3) Are there plans for the API to support cross-client/MCC reporting? > 4) When (ANY rough guess is better than none) might the beta of that > API version become available? > > Thanks for the help. > > -Jonah > On Nov 4, 1:23 pm, AdWords API Advisor <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi Jonah, > > > The v2010* ReportDefinitionService doesn't support cross-client > > reporting in any form at the moment, so you will need to request an > > individual report per-account. However, because report generation is > > much faster in v2010* the overall time it takes to get the data should > > not be dramatically affected. > > > Best, > > - Eric > > > On Nov 2, 7:49 pm, jonahviakeyboard <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Eric, yes, you can still get them through the UI in a scheduled email, > > > but at the account level, not at the MCC level. Stuck at the account > > > level, the new email report deliveries come with a download link > > > behind a login, not attachments (which could be extracted > > > programmatically) in the old Report Center. Campaign reports as well > > > cannot be downloaded at the MCC level through the API, but work > > > through the UI. > > > > As mentioned, the Destination URL report definition created from the > > > UI is different (and better for my needs) than the one created by the > > > API. Turns out that a UI created Destination URL report can be > > > downloaded through the API...but only at the account level. I've got a > > > few dozen accounts under one MCC and need accurate and comprehensive > > > daily URL reports for all accounts. And new accounts get launched > > > without my knowledge. With many accounts, the new report center email > > > delivery is not a solution. The API does not have reasonable a > > > solution. But the old Report Center met my needs just fine. > > > > On Oct 27, 5:20 pm, AdWords API Advisor <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > In addition, although the old reports center is going away, you can > > > > still schedule these reports to be emailed to you on regular > > > > intervals. When you are at the Dimensions -> Destination URL screen, > > > > click the icon that looks like a down arrow going into an inbox, and > > > > expand the "Email and schedule report" section. > > > > > Best, > > > > - Eric > > > > > On Oct 27, 4:31 pm, AdWords API Advisor <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > Report definitions are shared between the UI and API, but I don't > > > > > believe this type of report can be turned into a report definition > > > > > yet. I am not aware of any plans to add this report type to the API, > > > > > but I will bring it up with the rest of the team. > > > > > > Best, > > > > > - Eric > > > > > > On Oct 27, 12:49 pm, Terence <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > I am in the exact same boat as Jonah. AdWords used to send me > > > > > > complete Destination URL reports via email, but the old Report > > > > > > Center > > > > > > is being discontinued and reports will no longer be attached to > > > > > > emails. So I too am looking to the API to download the Destination > > > > > > URL. > > > > > > > I'm really hesitant about Eric's suggested solution. Seems very > > > > > > hacky > > > > > > and prone to errors. Has anyone found a better solution to getting > > > > > > a > > > > > > comprehensive and accurate Destination URL report via API yet? > > > > > > > On Oct 24, 7:27 pm, jonahviakeyboard <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Thanks Eric. > > > > > > > > In my first test, your suggestion worked - at least in terms of > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > sum of clicks and media. So it is comprehensive. I haven't had the > > > > > > > chance to test activity by Desination URL to see if it is > > > > > > > accurate. > > > > > > > Assuming yes, the next step is to write something that will > > > > > > > request > > > > > > > both sets, combine them, and remove intersections. Then iterate > > > > > > > through many accounts and aggregate results. Certainly seems more > > > > > > > cumbersome and prone to error than the single report I can get > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > the UI. > > > > > > > > I currently receive a daily Destination URL report that spans many > > > > > > > accounts. It is my understanding that the new version of the > > > > > > > report > > > > > > > center will not send email attached reports - that the API is the > > > > > > > solution. That's what brought about my first question. > > > > > > > > As an alternative to your suggestion to replicating the UI's > > > > > > > Destination URL report, is it possible to schedule a Destination > > > > > > > URL > > > > > > > report through the UI, and then download it through the API? How > > > > > > > can > > > > > > > one get the RVal ID of a report schedule from the UI? That route > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > certainly be much easier. Would that RVal ID change (daily) as the > > > > > > > report is regenerated? > > > > > > > > Or, are there plans to include a new report type or option in a > > > > > > > future > > > > > > > API release that would replicate the UI's version of a > > > > > > > Destination URL > > > > > > > report? (You said 'yet', so I'm hopeful) > > > > > > > > Many thanks. > > > > > > > > On Oct 20, 6:21 pm, AdWords API Advisor > > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi Jonah, > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately the API doesn't have a report that exactly > > > > > > > > matches the > > > > > > > > Destination URL dimension screen in the UI. Your attempts so > > > > > > > > far have > > > > > > > > been good, but the main problem is that there isn't support for > > > > > > > > CriterionUserList (Audience) criteria in the reporting system > > > > > > > > yet. > > > > > > > > What may work is the following: > > > > > > > > > Use the AD_PERFORMANCE_REPORT and include the KeywordId field. > > > > > > > > This > > > > > > > > will segment the statistics by the criteria that triggered the > > > > > > > > impressions. I'm not 100% sure, but I think this field will > > > > > > > > work for > > > > > > > > any type of criterion, CriterionUserList included. You can > > > > > > > > then use > > > > > > > > this ID to cross reference the results from a KEYWORDS / > > > > > > > > PLACEMENT > > > > > > > > report or the AdGroupCriterionService to get the destination > > > > > > > > URLs of > > > > > > > > the criteria. > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > - Eric Koleda, AdWords API Team > > > > > > > > > On Oct 18, 7:37 pm, jonahviakeyboard <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > With the API, I want to reproduce the UI report generated by > > > > > > > > > navigating Campaigns->Dimensions->Destination URL. I thought > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > should be easy to do - expected a URL_PERFORMANCE_REPORT. But > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > returns the URLs from which some of my ads were clicked > > > > > > > > > (display and > > > > > > > > > content, I suppose), not the destination URL. > > > > > > > > > > I've spent a great deal of time tinkering with different > > > > > > > > > variations of > > > > > > > > > report requests, trying both v201008 and v201003. Two > > > > > > > > > requests get me > > > > > > > > > close to the truth as reported in the UI: > > > > > > > > > > First is an AD_PERFORMANCE_REPORT with DestinationURL as a > > > > > > > > > dimension > > > > > > > > > Second is a KEYWORDS_PERFORMANCE_REPORT with DestinationURL > > > > > > > > > as a > > > > > > > > > dimension > > > > > > > > > > The problem with the first is that it is comprehensive but > > > > > > > > > inaccurate. > > > > > > > > > All clicks are reported, but many keywords use override URLs. > > > > > > > > > This > > > > > > > > > report shows default URLs at the ad level. > > > > > > > > > > The problem with the second is that it is accurate but not > > > > > > > > > comprehensive. All Destination URLs are true, but performance > > > > > > > > > activity > > > > > > > > > is not included for display network (in my case, remarketing) > > > > > > > > > because > > > > > > > > > they dot count as keywords. > > > > > > > > > > How can I replicate the results seen in the UI? > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks for the help. -- =~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~ Also find us on our blog and discussion group: http://adwordsapi.blogspot.com http://groups.google.com/group/adwords-api =~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AdWords API Forum" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/adwords-api?hl=en
