Hi Anash,

I tried that and it looks to have solved the problem :-) 

many thanks for you help on this one

Giles

On Thursday, November 7, 2013 8:28:35 PM UTC, Anash P. Oommen (AdWords API 
Team) wrote:
>
> Hi Giles,
>
> I'll look at this a bit more closely later today, but I agree that the 
> problem is about your 40 threads all trying to refresh the access token at 
> the same time. The workaround would be to share the access token among the 
> various threads.
>
> A simple workaround would be to ensure that the AdsOAuthProvider is shared 
> among all the AdWordsUsers. Something like:
>
> AdWordsAppConfig config = new AdWordsAppConfig();
> // Set all the necessary property overrides here.
>
> AdsOAuthProvider provider = new OAuth2ProviderForApplications(config);
> // Optional: Fetch an access token before initalizing the users
> provider.RefreshAccessToken();
>
> // Now create the users. Make sure you share the provider amongst them.
> AdWordsUser user1 = new AdWordsUser();
> AdWordsUser user2 = new AdWordsUser();
>
> user1.OAuthProvider = user2.OAuthProvider = provider;
>
> This way, the users won't race in the beginning to refresh access tokens 
> all at once.
>
> I'll make sure that this functionality is clearer / cleaner in a future 
> version of the client library.
>
> Cheers,
> Anash P. Oommen,
> AdWords API Advisor.
>
> On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 1:03:45 PM UTC-5, giles bodger wrote:
>>
>> Hi Anash,
>>
>> Our Windows service looks after all of our synching from AW, pushing 
>> updates to AW and downloading reports from AW. We have sql jobs that kick 
>> off these requests for all of our accounts multiple times per hour. 
>> Everything was working fine with Client Login - not to say that it wont 
>> with OAuth i am sure :)
>>
>> At the time of the errors, we would have been running up to 15 threads on 
>> Synch, 15 threads on Updates and 25 threads on Reports. Every request we 
>> make to the API has a new AdWordsUser object created as follows ....
>>
>> /* c# code START */
>> var adWordsUser = new AdWordsUser();
>>
>> adWordsUser.Config.OAuth2ClientId = myConfig._oAuth2ClientId;
>> adWordsUser.Config.OAuth2ClientSecret = myConfig._oAuth2ClientSecret;
>> adWordsUser.Config.OAuth2RefreshToken = myConfig._oAuth2RefreshToken;
>>
>> return adWordsUser;
>> /* c# code END */
>>
>> ....
>> (appreciate that i don't actually have to explicitly set these values as 
>> they are retrieved from the config at runtime)
>>
>>
>> within each account synch or update push or report request, we call any 
>> or all of the following AW services ...
>>
>> ManagedCustomerService
>> CampaignService
>> BudgetService
>> AdGroupService
>> AdGroupAdService
>> AdParamService
>> CampaignCriterionService
>> AdGroupCriterionService
>> CustomerSyncService
>> ReportUtilitiesService
>> AdGroupBidModifierService
>> FeedService
>> FeedItemService
>> FeedMappingService
>> CampaignFeedService
>>
>> ...... 
>>
>> We were at the AdWords workshop yesterday in London and brought this up 
>> during the OAuth presentation and Paul (cant remember his surname - too 
>> many Pauls!) said that it might be because we are creating a new 
>> AdWordsUser object for each request, and that this may have caused the 
>> library to have made too many refresh attempts ?
>>
>> As to how we are retrieving OAuth2 tokens, I have created a refresh token 
>> using the OAuthTokenGenerator.exe and am simply using this along with my 
>> ClientId and Secret within the configuration. My understanding from our 
>> conversation so far was that the actual access token is created and used 
>> under the hood by the client library and that the refresh token simply 
>> refreshes this token.
>>
>> Just as a side note - We also have a wrapper around all our requests to 
>> catch exceptions and to apply the necessary wait times if we are Rate 
>> Limited - however we have only been managing ACCOUNT and DEVELOPER scope 
>> levels of Rate Limit and not the USER level as we were getting with these 
>> particular Rate Limit exceptions.
>>
>> I know that the ClientId and Secret and Refresh Token do work because i 
>> can make requests of our production AW accounts from my local workstation 
>> with the same OAuth credentials that were failing - it appears to be the 
>> multiple threads of requests that we are getting stuck on.
>>
>> Many thanks in advance
>>
>> Giles
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 11:54:29 AM UTC, Anash P. Oommen (AdWords 
>> API Team) wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Giles,
>>>
>>> The error suggests that you are refreshing the access token very 
>>> frequently (or rather, the library is doing this very frequently for some 
>>> reason). Could you provide more details on how your code works? Is it multi 
>>> threaded? Are you creating mutliple AdWordsUsers? How are you retrieving 
>>> OAuth2 tokens? Feel free to reply to author and ping this thread in case 
>>> you don't want to discuss some of these details in the public forum.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Anash P. Oommen,
>>> AdWords API Advisor.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, November 3, 2013 2:42:32 PM UTC-5, giles bodger wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Anash,
>>>>
>>>> So we put our OAuth2 enabled application into our production 
>>>> environment, which caters for synching data, updating data and processing 
>>>> reports. We immediately ran into hundreds of the following errors .....
>>>>
>>>> ........
>>>>
>>>> <ExceptionType>Google.Api.Ads.Common.Lib.AdsOAuthException</ExceptionType>
>>>>     <StackTrace>An unhandled exception occurred.
>>>> [Google.Api.Ads.Common.Lib.AdsOAuthException]: Failed to refresh access 
>>>> token.
>>>> &lt;HTML&gt;
>>>> &lt;HEAD&gt;
>>>> &lt;TITLE&gt;User Rate Limit Exceeded&lt;/TITLE&gt;
>>>> &lt;/HEAD&gt;
>>>> &lt;BODY BGCOLOR="#FFFFFF" TEXT="#000000"&gt;
>>>> &lt;H1&gt;User Rate Limit Exceeded&lt;/H1&gt;
>>>> &lt;H2&gt;Error 403&lt;/H2&gt;
>>>> &lt;/BODY&gt;
>>>> &lt;/HTML&gt;
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Stack Trace: 
>>>>    at 
>>>> Google.Api.Ads.Common.Lib.OAuth2ProviderForApplications.RefreshAccessTokenInOfflineMode()
>>>>    at Google.Api.Ads.Common.Lib.OAuth2ProviderBase.GetAuthHeader()
>>>>    at Google.Api.Ads.AdWords.Lib.AdWordsSoapClient.InitForCall(String 
>>>> methodName, Object[] parameters)
>>>>
>>>>       .........
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I thought from your explanation, that the access token is refreshed 
>>>> automatically - under the hood by the client library framework - when we 
>>>> supply the refresh token at run time - which is what i am doing.
>>>>
>>>> We have hit rate limit exceeded errors previously and have built in 
>>>> support to back off to not keep incurring them (appreciate that we don't 
>>>> incur a penalty for requests made when developer / account level usage is 
>>>> in breach) and making unnecessary requests.
>>>>
>>>> If you could shed any light on this I would be most appreciative
>>>>
>>>> many thanks in advance
>>>>
>>>> Giles
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 3:08:15 PM UTC+1, Anash P. Oommen (AdWords 
>>>> API Team) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Giles,
>>>>>
>>>>> That's a lot of questions, I'll try to get all your questions 
>>>>> answered. Feel free to follow up if you have more questions.
>>>>>
>>>>> At a low level, OAuth flow involves 
>>>>>     (a) generating an authorization url
>>>>>     (b) Navigating the user to the url and asking user to authorize it.
>>>>>     (c) Obtaining an authorization code from server once the user 
>>>>> authorizes the access (This is the authorization code you see on the url)
>>>>>     (d) Exchanging the authorization code for an access token (for 
>>>>> authorizing your API calls, short lived, typically expires in 1 hour) and 
>>>>> optionally a refresh token (for obtaining a new access token once the old 
>>>>> one expires, won't expire until the user explicitly revokes this token)
>>>>>     (e) Making calls with access token in OAuth2 Authorization header.
>>>>>     (f) Detecting when the access token expires (either track 
>>>>> remaining lifetime of the token, or examine the errorcode thrown by the 
>>>>> server)
>>>>>     (g) Use refresh token to get a new access token, repeat (e) and (f)
>>>>>
>>>>> If you have just one customer, you can use OAuthTokenGenerator.exe to 
>>>>> do steps (a) to (d). If you have an application where users login 
>>>>> interactively, you need to implement (a) to (d) as shown in the OAuth 
>>>>> ASP.NET code example. The client library takes care of (e) to (g) 
>>>>> provided you mention the configuration in app.config or you load them 
>>>>> into 
>>>>> AdWordsUser at runtime.
>>>>>
>>>>> To answer your specific questions,
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Yes, you are right in thinking that you can generate the 
>>>>> configuration one-time using OAuthTokenGenerator.exe and use that with 
>>>>> your 
>>>>> Windows service.
>>>>> 2. No, it is used only for obtaining the access and refresh tokens.
>>>>> 3. Yes, it is used to refresh the access token automatically once it 
>>>>> expires. Since your service is a Windows service, you will definitely 
>>>>> need 
>>>>> this token.
>>>>> 4. ClientId and ClientSecret won't expire. Only access token will 
>>>>> expire.
>>>>> 5. Yes, you can.
>>>>> 6. Yes, you need to keep the project on the Google API Console in 
>>>>> tact, since the access and refresh tokens are issued against the Google 
>>>>> API 
>>>>> Console.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope this helps. Let me know if you have more questions,
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Anash P. Oommen,
>>>>> AdWords API Advisor
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 6:14:13 PM UTC+5:30, giles bodger wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So we have a Windows Service which we use to manage our AdWords 
>>>>>> accounts and am now trying to convert to using OAuth2 from ClientLogin 
>>>>>> as 
>>>>>> the Authorization Method.
>>>>>> The situation is such that I don't have a need to send a user to a 
>>>>>> redirect page to verify access to their data, I simply need MY Windows 
>>>>>> service to be able to access MY Adwords account data.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> reading up on the following page ......
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://code.google.com/p/google-api-adwords-dotnet/wiki/UsingOAuth#Adding_OAuth2_support_for_your_application_(multiple_logins)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because we have a hierarchy of Advertiser accounts all linked under 
>>>>>> a single master MCC, I think I am right in saying that I can create 
>>>>>> the necessary ClientID and the Client Secret by using the 
>>>>>> "OAuth2TokenGenerator.exe" application, and indeed I went through the 
>>>>>> following the steps......
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    1. Navigated to the page https://code.google.com/apis/console/ 
>>>>>>    2. Log in to the adwords account
>>>>>>    3. Create a new Project (although I don't really know what a 
>>>>>>    project is or what it is for ?)
>>>>>>    4. Then, not in the new "cloud console" dashboard but the old 
>>>>>>    one, i was able to click on "API Access" and then "Create an OAuth2 
>>>>>> client 
>>>>>>    Id"
>>>>>>    5. I then entered this data along with the already entered OAuth2 
>>>>>>    Scope in the OAuth2TokenGenerator
>>>>>>    6. A browser window then opened to a localhost domain with the 
>>>>>>    following url , 
>>>>>> http://localhost:8080/?code=[<http://localhost:8080/?code=4/SdZV4PkI8lbav1fOPSTdyHRzOZhr.Eg9_Y1PlO9seOl05ti8ZT3YR3M5ugwI>REMOVED
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>    FOR SECURITY PURPOSES] , I am presuming that this browser window 
>>>>>> opened in 
>>>>>>    order for me to verify that i, as the adwords account user, will 
>>>>>> allow my 
>>>>>>    windows service (that i am creating the OAuth2 configuration for) to 
>>>>>> have 
>>>>>>    access to. As I was logged into adwords we had some sort of 
>>>>>> redirection and 
>>>>>>    an Authentication Code "code" was given as you can see in the 
>>>>>> querystring.
>>>>>>    7. The OAuth2TokenGenerator then presented me with the OAuth2 
>>>>>>    configuration that I will need
>>>>>>    
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <add key='AuthorizationMethod' value='OAuth2' />
>>>>>> <add key='OAuth2ClientId' value='[VALUE]' />
>>>>>> <add key='OAuth2ClientSecret' value='[VALUE]' />
>>>>>> <add key='OAuth2RefreshToken' value='[VALUE]' />
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I add these to my app.config, and then whenever I make a request 
>>>>>> via the Adwords API to access my account, I am creating the following 
>>>>>> AdWordsUser ....
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /* c# code START */
>>>>>> var adWordsUser = new AdWordsUser();
>>>>>>
>>>>>> adWordsUser.Config.OAuth2ClientId = myConfig._oAuth2ClientId;
>>>>>> adWordsUser.Config.OAuth2ClientSecret = myConfig._oAuth2ClientSecret;
>>>>>> adWordsUser.Config.OAuth2RefreshToken = myConfig._oAuth2RefreshToken; 
>>>>>> // what is this used for ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> return adWordsUser;
>>>>>> /* c# code END */
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So this then seems to work and I appear to be able to access the data 
>>>>>> in my Adwords account, which is great, but can I ask the following
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    1. Is this the correct method for setting up OAuth2 access to an 
>>>>>>    Adwords account for use within a Windows Service? - I have no user 
>>>>>> other 
>>>>>>    than myself that would need to verify that my Windows Service is 
>>>>>> allowed 
>>>>>>    access to my Adwords account data.
>>>>>>    2. Do I have any need for the Authorisation Code as given in the 
>>>>>>    browser window as described in point 6 above as I explained the 
>>>>>>    OAuth2TokenGenerator process ?
>>>>>>    3. When I create my AdWordsUser object, do I need to utilise the 
>>>>>>    OAuth2RefreshToken? Is this RefreshToken relevent to my set up?
>>>>>>    4. Is my ClientId and ClientSecret about to expire at any point 
>>>>>>    in the future, like an Access Token might expire with a mobile 
>>>>>> application 
>>>>>>    style user access scenario?
>>>>>>    5. We currently deploy more than one Windows Service to access 
>>>>>>    the same Adwords account. Can more than 1 Windows service use these 
>>>>>> same 
>>>>>>    credentials at the same time?
>>>>>>    6. When logged into my account at 
>>>>>>    https://code.google.com/apis/console/b/0/, I can see my "ClientId 
>>>>>>    For Installed Applications" within which I see my Client ID and 
>>>>>> Client 
>>>>>>    Secret - I also see RedirectURI's. Do I have any need for these?
>>>>>>    
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A lot of questions i know, so many thanks in advance
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Giles Bodger
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>

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