Hey Thanet,

Followup question - would we be able to interact with Automatic Placements 
if we were to use an AdWords script 
<https://support.google.com/adwords/answer/188712?hl=en&authuser=0>?

Thanks,
Mark

On Thursday, July 9, 2015 at 9:12:55 AM UTC-7, Mark R wrote:
>
> Hey Thanet,
>
> Thanks for the clarification.  That was my assumption after trying 
> different avenues ourselves.
>
> Regards,
> Mark
>
> On Thursday, July 9, 2015 at 1:59:09 AM UTC-7, Thanet Knack Praneenararat 
> (AdWords API Team) wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mark,
>>
>> No, as I mentioned before, automatic placements don't receive Criterion 
>> ID, that's why their ID are shown as "--" in PLACEMENT_PERFORMANCE_REPORT 
>> and as 0 in AdWords user interface.
>> I apologize that I suggested wrongly. In fact, you cannot obtain the 
>> placements without ID, namely automatic placements, via 
>> AdGroupCriterionService.
>> The service only returns those with criterion IDs.
>>
>> I'll look for other possible workarounds and will get you updated in case 
>> we have ones.
>> But possibly they are not returned by Selector due to the fact that they 
>> are not supposed to be added/deleted by users at first place.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Thanet, AdWords API Team
>>
>> On Thursday, July 9, 2015 at 1:04:23 AM UTC+9, Mark R wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Thanet,
>>>
>>> I'm using a very similar implementation of the googleads-java-lib 
>>> example, but that is still not grabbing all the placements.
>>>
>>> At a high level, does an Automatic Placements even get a Criterion ID?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 7, 2015 at 10:30:37 PM UTC-7, Thanet Knack 
>>> Praneenararat (AdWords API Team) wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello Mark,
>>>>
>>>> You can use a Selector of AdGroupCriterionService 
>>>> <https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/appendix/selectorfields#v201506-AdGroupCriterionService>
>>>>  
>>>> to get placement URLs by the field *PlacementUrl*.
>>>>
>>>> This code example 
>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fgoogleads%2Fgoogleads-php-lib%2Fblob%2Fmaster%2Fexamples%2FAdWords%2Fv201506%2FBasicOperations%2FGetKeywords.php%23L56&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNEtH5D8f6pnYDfkm86mWkdOLxMFVA>
>>>>  
>>>> might be similar to what you would like to do.
>>>> Just change the code from using the type *KEYWORD *to *PLACEMENT *
>>>> instead.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Thanet, AdWords API Team
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, July 8, 2015 at 3:25:03 AM UTC+9, Mark R wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey Thanet,
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you point me towards an API call that uses the Placement 
>>>>> description as suggested?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, July 7, 2015 at 7:18:52 AM UTC-7, Mark R wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey Thanet,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the info.  We'll look into alternative methods for 
>>>>>> updating the Automatic placements.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, July 7, 2015 at 1:48:39 AM UTC-7, Thanet Knack 
>>>>>> Praneenararat (AdWords API Team) wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Mark,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for your clarification.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I still think that you should ignore those placements without IDs or 
>>>>>>> not offer them to your users.
>>>>>>> Originally, they are *automatic* placements (i.e., you or your user 
>>>>>>> haven't created them), not the *managed* placements that you can 
>>>>>>> add or delete.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you still would like to tweak around them, the best possible way 
>>>>>>> might be using their descriptions instead of IDs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Thanet, AdWords API Team
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, July 7, 2015 at 2:28:33 AM UTC+9, Mark R wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hey Thanet,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We use an internal tool for managing some of our Criterion, and our 
>>>>>>>> team would like the capability to bid/pause/remove Placements through 
>>>>>>>> this 
>>>>>>>> tool.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Without an ID they would need to individually select each Placement 
>>>>>>>> through the AdWords webpage they wish to manipulate, rather than use 
>>>>>>>> API 
>>>>>>>> calls.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Monday, July 6, 2015 at 4:16:46 AM UTC-7, Thanet Knack 
>>>>>>>> Praneenararat (AdWords API Team) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure I understand your use case correctly.
>>>>>>>>> Why would this mechanism (returning null when the placement is 
>>>>>>>>> automatic one) is problematic to you?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That is just one of other possible ways (e.g., returning an 
>>>>>>>>> arbitrary constant value) to show that a certain row is of automatic, 
>>>>>>>>> not 
>>>>>>>>> the one you have manually specified.
>>>>>>>>> Could you please tell me what you are trying to achieve so I can 
>>>>>>>>> help you appropriately?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Thanet, AdWords API Team
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 6:06:13 AM UTC+9, Mark R wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hey Thanet,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That agrees with what we've observed, but is there a technical 
>>>>>>>>>> reason?  It seems to also be the case when I pull the Placement 
>>>>>>>>>> through the 
>>>>>>>>>> AdGroupCriterionService.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Can you suggest an alternative method for getting the ID?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, July 3, 2015 at 2:24:32 AM UTC-7, Thanet Knack 
>>>>>>>>>> Praneenararat (AdWords API Team) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That means the placement is an automatic one 
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://support.google.com/adwords/answer/99463?hl=en> (as 
>>>>>>>>>>> compared to managed placements 
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://support.google.com/adwords/answer/99502?hl=en>). In 
>>>>>>>>>>> AWFE, it will have value of 0.
>>>>>>>>>>> For managed placements you specified, the placement performance 
>>>>>>>>>>> report shows the ID field as usual.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanet, AdWords API Team
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, July 2, 2015 at 8:36:48 AM UTC+9, Mark R wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Folks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> In the Placement Performance Report, I'm observing a large 
>>>>>>>>>>>> quantity of Placements where the ID field is coming in as null 
>>>>>>>>>>>> ("--") and 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not seeing in the documentation why that would be.  Is there a 
>>>>>>>>>>>> segmentation that could cause this result?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>

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