Hi Josh,

Thanks for your reply.
I guess we have to wait for the next version then! No problem.
Any idea when the next major release will be?

Jonathan

Op woensdag 15 maart 2017 22:12:24 UTC+1 schreef Josh Radcliff (AdWords API 
Team):
>
> Hi Jonathan,
>
> Thanks for bearing with me while I looked into these issues. Here's what 
> I've found:
>
> *1. Support for top level AND of OR groups*
> This is a new "advanced" feature in the user interface, and I confirmed 
> that it is not yet supported in the AdWords API. If this becomes available 
> in the API, it will be part of a future release, so I'd recommend following 
> our 
> blog <http://googleadsdeveloper.blogspot.com/search/label/adwords_api> for 
> updates.
>
> *2. Date rule list rendering in the user interface*
> During the course of our investigation, a user interface change went out 
> that resolved this one. If you load it up in the user interface today, you 
> should see the rules displayed as expected (see attached screenshot).
>
> Cheers,
> Josh, AdWords API Team
>
> On Monday, March 13, 2017 at 8:57:03 AM UTC-4, Josh Radcliff (AdWords API 
> Team) wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jonathan,
>>
>> No updates just yet, but I'll reply back as soon as I have progress to 
>> report.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Josh, AdWords API Team
>>
>> On Monday, March 13, 2017 at 6:37:55 AM UTC-4, Jonathan de Zoete wrote:
>>>
>>> Hoi Josh,
>>> Did you get a response from the team yet?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> Jonathan
>>>
>>> Op dinsdag 7 maart 2017 14:48:01 UTC+1 schreef Jonathan de Zoete:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Josh,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for thinking with me.
>>>> I explored this approach, which led me to some brain-breaking code :)
>>>>
>>>> Userlist 463282026 is the result of this.
>>>> The thing is, we have quite some filters which can be translated to 
>>>> rules. This will lead to a lot of (exponentially) possible combinations 
>>>> and 
>>>> a lot of unreadeable rules.
>>>>
>>>> It is possible, but i think it's a road we don't want to take.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Op dinsdag 7 maart 2017 14:26:27 UTC+1 schreef Josh Radcliff (AdWords 
>>>> API Team):
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Jonathan,
>>>>>
>>>>> One thought just occurred to me regarding question b):
>>>>>
>>>>> b) If there's a way to create a list similar to 460819655 without 
>>>>> using a *LogicalUserList* that combines other lists.
>>>>>
>>>>> The rule you set up through the user interface was:
>>>>>
>>>>>    - (URL contains 'abc' OR URL contains 'def') *AND*
>>>>>    - (RefUrl contains 'ghi' or refUrl contains 'jkl')
>>>>>
>>>>> This is logically equivalent to the following:
>>>>>
>>>>>    - (URL contains 'abc' AND refUrl contains 'ghi') *OR*
>>>>>    - (URL contains 'abc' AND refUrl contains 'jkl') *OR*
>>>>>    - (URL contains 'def' AND refUrl contains 'ghi') *OR*
>>>>>    - (URL contains 'def' AND refUrl contains 'jkl')
>>>>>
>>>>> The second structure is achievable using ExpressionRuleUserList.rule 
>>>>> <https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/reference/v201702/AdwordsUserListService.ExpressionRuleUserList#rule>.
>>>>>  
>>>>> Simply create each of the four items in the list as an entry in the 
>>>>> rule's 
>>>>> groups collection 
>>>>> <https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/reference/v201702/AdwordsUserListService.Rule#groups>,
>>>>>  
>>>>> e.g., the ExpressionRuleUserList.rule 
>>>>> <https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/reference/v201702/AdwordsUserListService.ExpressionRuleUserList#rule>
>>>>>  would 
>>>>> look like this:
>>>>>
>>>>> groups = [
>>>>>   RuleItemGroup { 
>>>>>     items = [
>>>>>       StringRuleItem { key = 'url__', op = 'CONTAINS', value = 'abc' },
>>>>>       StringRuleItem { key = 'ref_url__', op = 'CONTAINS', value = 
>>>>> 'ghi' },
>>>>>     ]
>>>>>   },
>>>>>   RuleItemGroup { 
>>>>>     items = [
>>>>>       StringRuleItem { key = 'url__', op = 'CONTAINS', value = 'abc' },
>>>>>       StringRuleItem { key = 'ref_url__', op = 'CONTAINS', value = 
>>>>> 'jkl' },
>>>>>     ]
>>>>>   },
>>>>>   RuleItemGroup { 
>>>>>     items = [
>>>>>       StringRuleItem { key = 'url__', op = 'CONTAINS', value = 'def' },
>>>>>       StringRuleItem { key = 'ref_url__', op = 'CONTAINS', value = 
>>>>> 'ghi' },
>>>>>     ]
>>>>>   },
>>>>>   RuleItemGroup { 
>>>>>     items = [
>>>>>       StringRuleItem { key = 'url__', op = 'CONTAINS', value = 'def' },
>>>>>       StringRuleItem { key = 'ref_url__', op = 'CONTAINS', value = 
>>>>> 'jkl' },
>>>>>     ]
>>>>>   },
>>>>> ]
>>>>>
>>>>> I realize this isn't particularly pretty, but it should work. Is that 
>>>>> feasible for the rules you want to set up?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Josh, AdWords API Team
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, March 7, 2017 at 8:02:41 AM UTC-5, Jonathan de Zoete wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Josh,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, I look forward to hearing from you!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Op dinsdag 7 maart 2017 13:46:45 UTC+1 schreef Josh Radcliff (AdWords 
>>>>>> API Team):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Jonathan,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for sending over those examples. I'm following up with the 
>>>>>>> remarketing team to find out:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a) Why 460819655 does not come back as a *RuleBasedUserList*
>>>>>>>  subtype.
>>>>>>> b) If there's a way to create a list similar to 460819655 without 
>>>>>>> using a *LogicalUserList* that combines other lists.
>>>>>>> c) Why the *DateBasedUserList* 463709364 renders in an odd way in 
>>>>>>> the user interface.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll get back to you as soon as I have more information.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Josh, AdWords API Team
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Monday, March 6, 2017 at 1:34:24 PM UTC-5, Jonathan de Zoete 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Josh,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for your reply.
>>>>>>>> The User list ID of the user with the combination list is 460264999
>>>>>>>> The User list ID of the user with the not-createable-rules is 
>>>>>>>> 460819655
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I also created date rule list: 463709364
>>>>>>>> This date based rule userlist has a funky result in the UI:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lKAPlA_IVvc/WL2rJbl2VnI/AAAAAAAAH6g/XweSHcziF3oEUpA1FUpOaQ6zSOJEP35LwCLcB/s1600/list3.png>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> However, if I would be able to set these custom rules through the 
>>>>>>>> API, that would also solve the problem.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance!
>>>>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Op maandag 6 maart 2017 13:51:41 UTC+1 schreef Josh Radcliff 
>>>>>>>> (AdWords API Team):
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Jonathan,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You've raised an interesting point! Would you mind sharing the user 
>>>>>>>>> list ID 
>>>>>>>>> <https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/reference/v201702/AdwordsUserListService.UserList#id>
>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>> of the user list you created through the user interface so I can look 
>>>>>>>>> it up?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Josh, AdWords API Team
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, March 5, 2017 at 9:11:09 PM UTC-5, Jonathan de Zoete 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In the Adwords backend you can set up a remarketing list with 
>>>>>>>>>> advanced options like so:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-2OxqN98k-_k/WLvzBC1GvTI/AAAAAAAAH58/8jzSAO238wEr1iMVfhcmq8FKdDna1CMvACLcB/s1600/list.png>
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> However, I can't find how to set this up in the Adwords Api. 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> All i can do is the 'non-advanced' options.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I created a list with advanced rule options, and retrieved it 
>>>>>>>>>> through the API, and it was not an ExpressionRuleUserlist but a 
>>>>>>>>>> normal 
>>>>>>>>>> UserList, without any rules.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Is it possible to create an advanced list through the API?
>>>>>>>>>> The thing is, a normal expression list lets you OR on the first 
>>>>>>>>>> level, and AND on the second level, but advanced rules let you AND 
>>>>>>>>>> first, 
>>>>>>>>>> and OR secondly, which is completely different, and a necessary 
>>>>>>>>>> feature for 
>>>>>>>>>> me.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Right now i only see the option to create a logicaluserlist and 
>>>>>>>>>> AND-include lists with OR conditions. But this is not the same and 
>>>>>>>>>> looks 
>>>>>>>>>> not very nice in the UI:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-brxhxjs1Eus/WLvzJ0AF4EI/AAAAAAAAH6A/ZgGeJxAAziwX08QRjRc7wzIOKvpaM92uwCLcB/s1600/list2.png>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance! 
>>>>>>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>

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