Hello Oliver,

Sometimes when the AdWords product is in transition, such as in this move 
from dynamic search ads to the new expanded dynamic search ads, you'll see 
that the AdWords UI and the AdWords API are not in perfect step with each 
other. There are times when the UI changes first, and there are other times 
when the API will change first. This happens to be one of those cases where 
you see the side effects of this process.

Please take this opportunity to encourage your users to move to expanded 
dynamic search ads 
<https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/guides/dynamic-search-ads>. 
That way they can be ahead of the game. If you have any further questions, 
feel free to reach out.

Take care,
Nadine, AdWords API Team

On Thursday, June 22, 2017 at 6:05:24 AM UTC-4, Oliver wrote:
>
> Thanks.  However, we're still able to create these ads in the web 
> interface in this type of adgroup.    This inconsistency makes it confusing 
> to our users who question why it's possible in web interface but not API.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, 21 June 2017 18:21:16 UTC+1, Nadine Sundquist (AdWords API 
> Team) wrote:
>>
>> Hello Oliver,
>>
>> It turns out that you found a mistake in our blog post, and it took a bit 
>> of discussion to get everyone on the same page here. With this last release 
>> DSAs can no longer be added to ad groups of type SEARCH_STANDARD. We will 
>> be updating the blog post shortly. Thank you for catching this!
>>
>> Best,
>> Nadine, AdWords API Team
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 13, 2017 at 12:24:14 PM UTC-4, Nadine Sundquist (AdWords 
>> API Team) wrote:
>>>
>>> Greetings Oliver,
>>>
>>> I took a look into this as well. It does look unexpected. Thank you for 
>>> providing all the additional detail. I've started an internal thread to 
>>> start looking into it. I'll get back to you as soon as we make further 
>>> progress in figuring out what changed in our code base. If you don't hear 
>>> from me soon, feel free to bump this thread.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Nadine, AdWords API Team
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, June 13, 2017 at 2:49:29 AM UTC-4, Oliver wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Shwetha,
>>>>
>>>> You say:
>>>> *>> You can only create Dynamic Search Ads 
>>>> <https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/guides/dynamic-search-ads> 
>>>> in 
>>>> ad groups with adGroupType 
>>>> <https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/reference/v201705/AdGroupService.AdGroup#adgrouptype>
>>>>  as 
>>>> SEARCH_DYNAMIC_ADS.*
>>>>
>>>> We don't believe this is the case.  We're referring here to 
>>>> *DynamicSearchAd 
>>>> *and *not *ExpandedDynamicSearchAd.  We've always been able to create 
>>>> *DynamicSearchAd* in adgroups with type  SEARCH_STANDARD.  The 
>>>> documentation below also confirms we can do this:
>>>>
>>>> http://googleadsdeveloper.blogspot.co.uk/2017/05/validation-rules-for-new-dynamic-ad.html?m=0&hl=fi
>>>>
>>>> The last paragraph in the above document says:
>>>> *>> Ad groups with AdGroupType 
>>>> <https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/reference/v201702/AdGroupService.AdGroupType>
>>>>  of SEARCH_STANDARD are not 
>>>> affected by this change. You can still continue adding expanded text ads, 
>>>> dynamic search ads, call ads, and various criterion types 
>>>> <https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/appendix/criteria-usage> 
>>>> to 
>>>> them.*
>>>>
>>>> Example adgroup ID:  19597050263
>>>>
>>>> Just to confirm, I'm not referring to creating the new Expanded DSA. 
>>>>  I'm referring to only DSA.
>>>>
>>>> Looking forward to hearing back from you.
>>>>
>>>> Oliver
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, 12 June 2017 17:28:21 UTC+1, Shwetha Vastrad (AdWords API 
>>>> Team) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Oliver,
>>>>>
>>>>> You can only create Dynamic Search Ads 
>>>>> <https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/guides/dynamic-search-ads>
>>>>>  
>>>>> in ad groups with adGroupType 
>>>>> <https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/reference/v201705/AdGroupService.AdGroup#adgrouptype>
>>>>>  
>>>>> as SEARCH_DYNAMIC_ADS. If you try to create a ExpandedDynamicSearchAd 
>>>>> <https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/reference/v201705/AdGroupAdService.ExpandedDynamicSearchAd>
>>>>>  
>>>>> in an adGroup with adGroupType 
>>>>> <https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/reference/v201705/AdGroupService.AdGroup#adgrouptype>
>>>>>  
>>>>> as SEARCH_STANDARD, you'll get the 
>>>>> OperationAccessDenied.OPERATION_NOT_PERMITTED_FOR_AD_GROUP_TYPE error. 
>>>>> Could you provide an example AdGroupId where you are able to create an 
>>>>> ExpandedDynamicSearchAd in the UI? Please use *Reply privately to 
>>>>> author* when responding. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Shwetha, AdWords API Team.
>>>>>
>>>>

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