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> I keep coming back to using puppet to handle the dev setup the more I
> think about it.  Granted, I am probably biased, having used it for at
> least a man-year for better or worse :)
> 
> Here's what I think we need to be able to do:
> 
> 1. Install required dependencies in a platform-agnostic manner.
>  Puppet
> can do this (yum for rpm-based, apt for deb-based,
> whatever-the-heck-mac-os-uses works too)
> 
> 2. Clone dev-sources from upstream source (conductor, imagefactory,
> deltacloud, audrey, configure?)
> 

For 1 & 2, I wonder if we really want/need a hard division between deps & dev 
sources.

I think it would be quite nice if we were able to switch between each src vs 
upstream packages in puppet.  This would have some level of impact on how the 
component is configured (whether we need to move something to /etc/... vs 
<my_code_checkout_dir>/...).  If we were to specify full-on dev mode, it might 
even be possible to do this as 'not root' from end-to-end, but that might 
require fairly intimate knowledge of the manifests to know when it is 'ok'.  
Might be more trouble than it is worth.

> 3. Drop any needed config files into the cloned source repos
> 
> 4. Ad-hoc things to run (db:migrate, etc.)
> 
> 5. Start services from source checkout
> 

To me services is implying chkconfig or the like.  Is it possible to run 
entirely non-root-ified assuming we don't care about things like proxying 
through apache and stuff like that.

> That's at a high level.  The reason I really tend towards puppet is
> because in the details, there's a whole boatload of things that are
> inter-dependent on each other and need to happen in some sort of
> ordering, but at the same time need to be platform-agnostic.  Puppet
> is
> good at this.  Other tools will be a bear to make functional across
> platforms and make sure all the dependencies are wired up properly.
> 
> Maybe I'm in an optimistic mood, but I think a first pass at this is
> attainable within a single sprint.
> 

Nice, I like it!

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