There is.  Relativity.

WC


--- Derek Allan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Re: ' If it is agreed there can be the "beautiful of
> the unbeautiful"'
> 
> Yes and why not the fast of the not fast, the lazy
> of the not lazy, the old
> of the not old and so on ad infinitum.
> 
> DA
> 
> On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 10:07 PM, Frances Kelly
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> > Frances to William and Chris and others...
> > If it is agreed there can be the "beautiful of the
> unbeautiful"
> > then even the "repulsive" object felt or sensed
> for its own sake
> > solely alone would have an aesthetic quality in
> its form to some
> > degree that could be say ideally sublime.
> >
> > William wrote...
> > Repulsive is not the same as ugly.  Both feelings
> of
> > the ugly and repulsive are brain-stem natural
> > responses to natural threats: predators, disease,
> > death, etc.   Ugly is not necessarily repulsive
> but
> > may simply be a variation of what a social norm
> for
> > the lovely.  Both can be beautiful.  As for the
> > repulsive, I suppose that's just a problem we
> humans
> > need to live with, the brain telling us what's
> healthy
> > or not.
> >
> > Chris wrote...
> > > "---- is there also ugly? (in nature)"
> > > Yes -- the dead and the dying.
> > > And for whatever reason -- some of the creatures
> > > that feed on carrion seem to
> > > be rather ugly too --- vultures, hyenas etc.
> > > Some parasites too -- like ticks, intestinal
> worms,
> > > leeches.
> > > Yuck -- they're ugly --- bad ugly.
> >
> >
> 
> 
> -- 
> Derek Allan
>
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