Perhaps there may be content without thought. At times, I'm able to makea thoughtless rough design that says nothing, but begins to speak later.In fact, most of what i do ,is done that way. from my being with out thought. Keeps the outside forces at bay, they are relentless. You know what i mean.
mando On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 10:55 AM, Derek Allan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No but those are other ways of expressing thoughts. The idea of a > thought minus any form of expressing it seems unthinkable to me. What > would the thought be about? One would have no way of saying.. So it > would be a thought without content? Is there such a thing? A thought > about nothing - a 'nothing-thought'. Perhaps in the higher reaches of > Zen or something, but I leave that to the aficionados. > > DA > > On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 12:35 AM, Armando Baeza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Derek, in the use of paint or clay, to achieve any abstract design, > does one > > have to use words?. Does one have to think of words while whistling? Do > > dancers have to think of words while dancing? Or playing a flute? > > > > mando > > > > On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 1:02 AM, Derek Allan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > >> For some reason I didn't get Cheerskep'e email re the above, but I saw > >> it on the archives. > >> > >> He writes in part: 'Writers struggle to choose the best words -- how > >> could that be if their > >> thoughts are in words?' > >> > >> I think the answer is they struggle precisely because the thought only > >> emerges fully once they sense the best words have been found. Until > >> then, it is a kind of embryo of a thought. 'Crime and Punishment' is > >> in a sense just one thought - which needed all those words to fully > >> reveal itself. Dostoyevsky was not writing down a pre-thought > >> 'language-less' idea - like an amanuensis putting someone else's ideas > >> on paper. He was exploring - discovering - his thought, as he wrote. > >> Like all artists. I think we all do much the same in everyday life in > >> a less developed way. > >> > >> Wordless thoughts would be like 'a painter' who had never painted > >> anything. > >> > >> DA > > > > > > > > -- > Derek Allan > http://www.home.netspeed.com.au/derek.allan/default.htm
