As already noted, nothing can be explained about why this painting should be
called a work of art.

(Or -- at least nothing can be explained by you.)

All you can do is indicate the strength of your feeling -- with words like
"powerful" or "seized"

But the word beautiful can be the beginning of a long description of
compositional elements - like color, tone, line, balance, scale etc.--
and if prompted, I'm sure the painting teachers on this listserv could explain
at length this painting's achievements.

(If it's too much of a stretch to call this image beautiful -- then say that
it has "compositional beauty")

Regarding the genre of depressing, depraved, vile figurative images made after
1900 -- the most famous would probably be the German Expressionists -- but I
was thinking more about our own, homegrown variety that I call "Chicago Ugly"
-- and here's some from the generations born 1880-1940 :


http://www.artnet.com/artwork/424541316/111920/leon-golub-danse-macabre.html

Leon Golub

http://www.printdealers.com/artist_template.cfm?id=1733

Carl Hoeckner

http://www.lib.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/efts/smart/display.image.pl?accession=198
5.4

Jim Nutt

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/370/1878/1600/a-fredb1.jpg

Fred Berger


And actually -concerning compositional beauty -- I'm not sure how I'd compare
them with the Goya -- at least, until I've seen more than just reproductions.

But every year, in our local art shows, I do see my fair share of images
depicting "a world that has lost its soul, a terrible, terrible world..." --
and I consider them worthless -- even worth less than the failed attempts to
create imagined worlds that are sacred,  joyful, and healthy.


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Re: 'You're always thinking about Goya's black paintings, aren't you Derek?'

Only becasue they - and other works done at this later stage - are
when Goya became Goya. If he had died at around 45 he would be
remembered today only as a relatively minor Baroque painter.

Re: '> Are they beautiful?
>
> Only if you compare them to the enormous genre of depressing, depraved,
vile
> figurative images made after 1900 -- especially the ones made after 1950.'

I can't imagine the kind of image I posted being described as
beautiful as compared with anything. Enormously powerful yes.
Beautiful, no. Who are the painters you have in mind by the way?

DA
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