Re: ' I don't recall a
single instance of being told that such art should be
evaluated by western standards"

Where do you get this from William? It's a silly distortion of what I said.

Your continual, unpleasant innuendos about "scholarly" standards
clashes badly your own apparent inabilty to read with care. I have
often noticed this in discussions with you.  You see what you want to
see.

DA

On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 11:37 PM, William Conger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm not grappling with  Derek but I am discounting his
> so-called arguments.  He does not offer arguments if
> by that we mean reasoned inductive or deductive
> process, supported by specific evidence, reference,
> and, yes, informed opinion.  Instead we get summative
> opinion, the appeal to authority, himself.  I've read
> some of his website essays and I think they are
> extremely well written, persuasive, clear.  But even
> there, in his remarks supporting Malraux, there is an
> absense of specific interpretation backed up by
> Malraux's own words or contested by the reasoning of
> other writers on the same topics.
>
> As for non-western art and the idea that it is
> misunderstood, I think this outlook has been well
> established for decades.  Fifty years ago, in my
> undergraduate college years I had courses in
> non-western art:  Prehistoric, African, Oceanic,
> Japanese, Chinese, Indian and related topics in four
> different American universities.  I don't recall a
> single instance of being told that such art should be
> evaluated by western standards (although as a learning
> artist I did admire its "design"). Perhaps I was
> especially fortunate in being taught by enlightened
> people but there was also an abundance of scholarly
> and even general literature that clarified the
> distinction between the  European aesthetic and the
> purposes of other artforms.  A look at the index and
> publication dates in any good library will justify my
> comment.  So I think Derek is making a big deal of
> something that's actually quite commonly understood by
> educated people (such as the listers here) and has
> been for quite a long time.  Thus Derek stresses an
> elementary point.  And  in defending Derek, so does
> Cheerskep.
>
> WC
>
>



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Derek Allan
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