" I think of contemporary
artists as those who are contributing to current global issues and
ideas".

No, artists contribute by creating beautiful forms. Ideas are the beginning
not the end of artists work. Materialization of the spiritual that is what
artists do. "Postmodern era" is a creation of aggressive banality to justify
its creative impotence. And there is no modern era, but "Modern period" in
arts named for convenience of the historians. There is only constant dialectic
development with new qualities. The meaning of modern - latest unique New.  It
does not matter how you call them, it is what they do with you. What Hirst
does with you?
The contributions you mention is primarily for the philosophers and
politicians.
Boris Shoshensky

-- kathleen desmond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I was going to comment on Chuck Close not being a contemporary
artist, either, actually, even though I continue to admire and
appreciate the work of both Johns and Close.  Since we are no longer
in a modern era, but a postmodern one, I guess that's what  I use as
the "dividing line."  Jasper Johns  certainly contributed to the
contemporary avant-garde of the 1950s and 60s along with John Cage,
Merce Cunningham and Robert Rauschenberg and moved to Pop Art making
the way for the postmodern art of Damien Hirst and other Young
British Artists, as well as the array of global artists involved in
Intermedia, Installation and multimedia.  I think of contemporary
artists as those who are contributing to current global issues and
ideas.  I don't know about presumptions of confronting relevant
issues.  What relevant issues?

kkd

>I wonder why you don't consider Jasper Johns a contemporary artist.
>Where, exactly, is the dividing line between, say. modern, and
>contemporary?  Johns is still making work and we may presume he is
>still confronting relevant issues. Is a contemporary artist one
>whose work is not yet widely influential?
>
>WC
>
>
>--- On Sat, 9/13/08, kathleen desmond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>  From: kathleen desmond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>  Subject: It's Hirst and Dickinson
>>  To: [email protected]
>>  Date: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 1:33 PM
>>  I couldn't help notice the inaccurate spelling of the
>>  names Damien
>>  Hirst and Emily Dickinson, the inaccuracy of calling Jasper
>>  Johns a
>>  contemporary artist, and the lack of context in using these
>>  artists
>>  for comparison.
>>
>>
>>  >To join William in reading between the lines of the
>>  Sendak interview -- we
>>  >might notice that the names he places into the iconic
>>  artist club are all
>>  >writers or composers. (Mozart, Melville, Dickenson etc)
>>  >
>>  >I.e. -- Sendak is not giving ground to any visual
>>  artists -- and I suspect
>>  >that he feels (as I do) that his memorable, poignant,
>>  narrative vision is a
>>  >greater achievement than the work of contemporary
>>  iconic visual artists like
>>  >Jasper Johns and Chuck Close.  (and way-way-way greater
>>  than the billionaire
>>  >joke artists like Damien Hurst)
>>  >
>>  >Either way -- only the obsessive mind of Cheerskep
>>  would find him nourishing
>>  >the Platonic forms of "illustrator" or
>>  "artist".
>>  >
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>>  --
>>  Dr. Kathleen Desmond
>>  Professor of Art History
>>  Byler Distinguished Faculty
>>  University of Central Missouri
>>  Warrensburg, MO  64093 U.S.A.
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Dr. Kathleen Desmond
Professor of Art History
Byler Distinguished Faculty
University of Central Missouri
Warrensburg, MO  64093 U.S.A.
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660-543-4620
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