Thanks for your note on list members, etc. Although its contents were not news, I'm not ungrateful. I had also noted earlier, in one of your responses to the list, that you WERE concerned with conveying meaning. I had already reflected on that note and realized what you've repeated below (more or less) - that sometimes it's vital to have "facts" be clear (who's married to whom, which diagnosis does this character have etc.) I also now understand that dramatic impact has to do with play viewers not knowing everything from the beginning. (In my work as a clinical psychologist, I guess I have to confess to delaying enhanced awareness of some issues until an opportune time - although of course I have no script.) I recognize that my work values and assumptions will differ from those of graphic artists but enjoy stretching my perspective to appreciate our differences. That being said, I do feel more kinship with your perspective in maintaining substantial attention to how your artistic product is likely to be received. I wonder if some members of the public might feel that the lack of concern with public reception is a flaw in contemporary fine art. Still, I recognize the deleterious impact of the requirement by the Russian communist regime of socialist art.
Who knows the truth?
Geoff C

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Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:27:08 EDT

In a message dated 9/23/08 12:35:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


> I understand that the artist is concerned only
> with his/her perception - whether an observer shared in some specific
> meaning is apparently not important;
>
Geoff -- You have to keep in mind that this forum is dominated by visual
artists, among whom you're likely to find many -- though not all -- who honestly feel, "The hell with being preoccupied with the effect of my work on others. I
paint what I want."

I know I can be a pain in the neck for many fellow-listers, but, say I, I am from the forum point of view healthily different. In two ways: For one, I seem to be at the moment the only contributing "philosopher". For another, I'm an
"artist" of sorts, but my "art" is different from visual art.

I'm a playwright. Behind every line I write there is a good deal of concern about its effects on contemplators (both readers and live audience members).
The concerns are various. Often the concern is focused on immediate
impression: If I write a line that's supposed to be moving or funny or surprising, and in every developmental reading or workshop performance it proves to be a dud, chances are I'll either revise it (or its preparatory lead-up) or delete it.

Accepting what I think is the spirit behind your use of the word 'meaning',
I'll make an ad-hoc distinction between two kinds of "meaning-notion" I want to occasion. One I'll call cerebral -- "exposition" -- the other, emotional. In
exposition, the narrative writer wants the viewer to take on board certain
"facts" about characters and their situation -- e.g. this woman is that man's daughter, this guy is very rich, that fellow has a terminal illness. In those
cases I know the "fact" I want to convey "clearly".

But much of the "emotional" impact, the idiosyncratic interpretation a viewer
brings to bear, I'm happy to leave to the viewer. I LIKE it when I see
audience members leaving the theater arguing about given characters or events. I can
imagine Shakespeare's being content to see viewers holding different
judgments about the sanity or pitiability of Hamlet or Lear. Granted, if I created a character that I liked and found intensely interesting, and every single viewer
felt he was boring and a bastard, I'd take that as damn bad news.

In practice, though, except in the farce I wrote, I know my characters are
multiplex, and I understand it when some viewers like them some of the time and are repelled some of the time. I don't expect uniform reactions in an audience
to characters like those.   In one of my current scripts, there's an
ultra-smart, highly educated guy. I'm aware some viewers will recoil from him on that
fact alone. Well, I don't write for those people. I don't want to spend two
hours watching slackers in someone else's play, and I sure don't want to spend months writing about one. So in that sense I "paint what I want". But behind that decision is a conviction there are potential viewers who also like being
with gifted characters.

As a writer, I work at creating a gripping storyline. And I'm looking to grip
not just myself but an audience.

All of which is to say that "whether an observer shared in some specific
meaning is apparently not important" doesn't apply to this would-be "artist".






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