Geoff writes:

"Cheerskep: Citing Bill Bradley and yourself as examples of most people's 
responses is a doubtful strategem. For most people, as well as animals which 
don't live in Central Park, Michael's arguments hold (unless he chose to argue 
that there were no exceptions)."

Now, that's naughty, Geoff. An even more doubtful "stratagem" is to respond 
to a remark you haven't read carefully. Michael wrote:

 "Consider your field of vision. Have you noticed that
you cannot perceive the end of your visual field? You have no ability to 
recognize and discern what is on the edges, or for that matter, where the end 
of 
your vision is."

His first sentence asks ME to consider MY field vision. So I did that, and I 
found that his next three assertions are untrue of my field of vision. My 
response was: "That has not been my experience." And then I described my 
experience. 

At no time did I assert that Bradley and I exemplify most people's responses. 


In fact, I explicitly said, " As I say, that simply isn't true of some of 
us."

I could argue, Geoff, that not only did you not read me carefully, you didn't 
Michael either. In effect, Michael's use of "you" implied he was addressing 
ANYONE who was reading. This, I'd claim, is indeed very like saying there are 
no exceptions. 

Finally, Geoff, you write, "For most people, Michael's arguments hold." One 
of Geoff's positions is that "you" (meaning everyone) have no ability to 
recognize objects on the periphery of vision. I should ask where is your 
evidence 
for believing Michael is right about this? Even if you change it to "MOST 
people 
can't recognize objects on the edge of their field of vision", where is your 
evidence for that? 



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