Yes, I agree.  Nature, the out there, is what it is.  It can't have a 
right-wrong value.  That's our job (curse). Of course, I do accept (believe) in 
 the "out there" as an existence independent of my knowing it.
WC


--- On Wed, 12/31/08, Michael Brady <[email protected]> wrote:

> From: Michael Brady <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Malcolm Gladwell and beliefs)
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Wednesday, December 31, 2008, 12:00 PM
> On Jan 1, 2009, at 12:37 PM, William Conger wrote:
> 
> > It may origniate in truth (the unprocessed actuality
> of experience)
> 
> That's a really good way of putting it. And it suggests
> two things:
> 
> 1. "Unprocessed actuality" [nature? existence?
> "out there"?] is never  
> wrong.
> 2. Lies and error come from the processing or
> "using" of the  
> representation of experience.
> 
> 
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> Michael Brady
> [email protected]

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