Kate's criticism of Bell's position is on target. Bell's position reminds
me of Malcolm Gladwell's: i.e. look for no examples that contradict the
catchy thesis he wants to put forth.

Certainly I could echo Kate's remarks about her ancestors: I'm not aware of
any forebear of mine pursuing any end whatever that I would call
"aesthetic". Oh? What about in home decorations?   When I was a little boy my
impression was not that they looked for anything "pretty"; they just wanted
to
conform and keep up with the O'Rileys. Thus the ubiquitous lace curtains and
antimacassars.

Of course, we don't know what Bell had in mind with 'aesthetic' or any of
those other terms I cited as key but undefined. Just possibly, if pressed he
would flee into the vacuity of a stipulative definition, for an example of
which I offer this from Frances:

"The act of art here is meant to broadly include for example theistic
religion and metaphysic phenomena and hypothetic philosophy and
hermeneutic history and semic language and artistic art."
***

Kate's posting:

> In a message dated 6/1/09 11:26:41 AM, [email protected] writes:
>
>
> > Daniel Bell's hollow statement was: "...In the nineteenth and early
> > twentieth centuries[,]...for...the artists and the educated social
> > classes...the
> > exploration of all impulses became an aesthetic norm."
> >
> > I protested that Bell's statement had too many undefined terms: e.g.
> > 'exploration', 'impulses', 'aesthetic', 'norms', 'class', 'all'.
> >
>
> Never mind the undefined terms, in the nineteenth and early twentieth
> centuries most of the people on both sides in my family were educated and
> they
> never thought of exploring their impulses as aesthetic norms. They
> impulsively went west, planted peach trees, went to Burma, stayed home and
> preached,went to war, started magazines, and   built pianos- but they  
> didn't do
> aesthetic norms. And they kept journals so we would know.   What is Bell
> talking
> about?
> KAte Sullivan
>


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