Agreed - and the conference was for K-12 art teachers - or as they now like to
call themselves teaching artist - I found the desire to quantify scary - and
am now trying to figure out what the effect of this modeling of creativity
will have on higher education and art schools


On 6/12/10 10:12 AM, "William Conger" <[email protected]> wrote:

Nothing in the 8 rules, and they are rules drawn from presumed proofs, allow
for tacit knowledge.  I'm still under the spell of Collins and his treatment
of tacit and explicit knowledge.
This is just more nonsense from those who claim that creativity can be mapped
and predicted.  See Greenberg re "concocted" art (or creativity).  The drones
of society can't abide the fact that some actions can't be predicted or turned
into formula.
wc


----- Original Message ----
From: Saul Ostrow <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sat, June 12, 2010 9:00:32 AM
Subject: Re: "Would aesthetic values if converted or reduced into  statistical
representation nullify the aesthetic values?"

I was at a conference on teaching creativity/ problem solving at the
Guggenhiem the other day
The general consensus is that the following 8 points constitute creativity
1.The ability to make connections/ observation
2.The ability to articulate the relation between needs and ideas (systemic
thinking)
3. the development and acknowledgement of choices
4.connecting goals to means - ability to deal with contingencies
5.material knowledge - limits and possibilities - resource recognition
6.ability to model diverse perspectives - non-linear / non
heirarchicathinking
7. adaptability/ ability to abstract ( to apply knowledge from one discipline
to another)
8. learning by trial and error- learning from mistakes - integrate evaluation
into practice
9.reflect and evaluate (critical and self-critical thinking) -
10. seeing challenges as opportunities
11. role playing
Conclusion: creativity is the ability to reformulate a question after it has
been answered




On 6/11/10 6:02 PM, "William Conger" <[email protected]> wrote:

All these laments are so boring.  The past never returns and it is always
idealized.  Get over it.  If you don't like art today don't deal with it.  Go
weep in victorian rooms of your favorite museum.

wc


----- Original Message ----
From: joseph berg <[email protected]>
To: aesthetics-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Wed, June 9, 2010 3:08:13 PM
Subject: "Would aesthetic values if converted or reduced into  statistical
representation nullify the aesthetic values?"

http://www.www.helium.com/items/1603379-aesthetics-and-the-philosophy-of-repr
esentation




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