In my mind, lets say i'm creating a relationship of forms
and colors that never existed before in my mind or
anywhere else. A new design of a common thing.
ab



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From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Mon, January 31, 2011 9:19:04 AM
Subject: Re: representation

In a message dated 1/31/11 11:33:06 AM, [email protected] writes:


> If I present something I create in my mind, that would
> be a representation, would it not?
> ab
> 
Three things. 

When you say 'present', what do you have in mind? If you imagine an image 
of a unicorn, do you call that "presenting" the image in your mind? I'm just 
trying to clarify here. There's no absolute "should" or "shouldn't" about 
what you call things. (One might argue there's a relative should or shouldn't. 
For example, if you're talking to a shepherd in the Andes, you "shouldn't" 
call things by their "names" in Swedish. But that's only if you want to be 
understood.)

Let's say by "create in your mind" you "mean" the image in your mind is 
unique, unthought of until you thought of it. By that standard, the image of 
the unicorn is not created in your mind, though you may still want to say that 
just by conjuring up that image you are "presenting" in your mind.

Third, and this is the important point, neither you nor I has a clear 
notion of what's behind your use of 'a representation' there. You have an image 
in your mind, but why do you say it "represents" something? Because it in 
some way resembles something? Suppose it's of a statue you haven't materially 
sculpted yet. It seems somewhat strange to say your image resembles something 
that does't exist. More strangely, perhaps, you may say it now "represents" 
a now-non-existent material thing that you are going to fashion in the 
future. But what is that saying beyond that one day you are going to sculpt 
something the retinal image of which will "look like" the image you're now 
imagining? What, precisely, is 'represents' meant to convey beyond 'resembles'?

I'm not asking you to to clarify all this stuff. I'm just trying to convey 
how blurry our notion of "represents" is in the mind, all our minds. Roughly 
speaking, 'resembles' can be defended as a non-nesting-doll word, but 
'represents' can't. 

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