Yet individuals do creative stuff. recognized or not. mando
________________________________ From: William Conger <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sun, February 27, 2011 4:09:00 PM Subject: Re: "Delbanco is primarily engaged in discovering how creativity con tinues into old age." I didn't say that there weren't creative individuals. I said it takes some consensus to to realize their creativity. Henry Ford failed over and over until he got people to back him with enough money; besides, he didn't invent the automobile. Edsion had a big crew of people always working to get his and their inventions accepted by users. Great novels aren't deemed great until a large audience says so. Individuals do stuff. Others say it;s creative wc. ----- Original Message ---- From: ARMANDO BAEZA <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sun, February 27, 2011 2:23:17 PM Subject: Re: "Delbanco is primarily engaged in discovering how creativity con tinues into old age." There are institutions and then, there are institutions And yet there more institutions,then there are creative individuals. ________________________________ From: Boris Shoshensky <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sun, February 27, 2011 8:19:37 AM Subject: Re: "Delbanco is primarily engaged in discovering how creativity con tinues into old age." " Being creative is not so much an attribute of individuality as it is an approbation of society. No one is creative until someone else, an institutional authority or consensus, says so". WC Existence of cars, computers, Museums, architectural structures or great novels does not need authority or consensus to say anything. Edison, Einstein and Tolstoy tell them to shut up and follow. Boris Shoshensky To: [email protected] Subject: Re: "Delbanco is primarily engaged in discovering how creativity continues into old age." Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 08:02:52 -0800 (PST) Delbanco's argument, like many others on the same theme, is largely anecdotal and clearly tautological. He finds accomplished, still "creative". old artists, and claims them as affirmative proof of his thesis. Does he mention the legions of artists who do not remain creative (and by what and whose standards?) in old age? Anyway, the whole issue is bogus and of value simply and only as romantic musing. Being creative is not so much an attribute of individuality as it is an approbation of society. No one is creative until someone else, an institutional authority or consensus, says so. WC ----- Original Message ---- From: joseph berg <[email protected]> To: aesthetics-l <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, February 25, 2011 11:00:01 PM Subject: "Delbanco is primarily engaged in discovering how creativity continues into old age." (Review of new book): http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/25/AR20110225030 40.html
