I want to agree with Cheerskep but I am troubled by suspicions that there is 
indeed an essence to things and to concepts.  What I have in mind is the notion 
of necessary and sufficient.  Concepts -- let's say the professional game of 
football -- has a few necessary and sufficient elements to make it the game of 
football (or, specifically, American football).  I suppose they would be the 
rules of the game. This is different from a football as an object.  That too 
may 
have a few necessary and sufficient properties.   How about mathematical 
concepts?  Does zero have a necessary and sufficient property?   And so on.  

When Cheerskep mentioned football he didn't say it was a game.  He right away 
went to subjective perceptions of the game and so in a slight-of-hand way he 
transferred the query of essence from the game of football, an objectively 
discernible activity ( in this case of the professional American variety), to 
the shifting and elusive subjective perceptions of the game, such as "violence" 
or "competition".  Once in that subjectively interpretative territory he is of 
course correct to say that the essence is too slippery to identify. 

wc


----- Original Message ----
From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tue, August 30, 2011 10:02:17 AM
Subject: Re: Fiction

In a message dated 8/29/11 5:09:47 PM, [email protected] writes:


> What you are saying is:
> There are apples and then there are apples..
> All different sizes / colors / and flavors....
> Perhaps even snowflakes differ from each other...
> So the essence of all things are  alway subjectively perceived?
>
I want to give a nice, definitive answer, I'm bold that way, so I say unto
you: Yes and no.

No: There is no "THE essence of" anything. If each of us were asked,
"What is the essence of football?", unaware that it is a faulty question (i.e.
it
assumes there IS a "THE essence"), one of us might say, "The essence of
football is violence!" Another might say, "The essence is that peculiar
quality
of all games -- competition." Another: "Struggle." Or, "Tactics, and
learning to use the tools you have." Etc.

Yes: There is no "THE" essence, but each of us might tend to cite our
dominant recurrent impression as we watch football games. That impression is
indeed always subjective, and we might seize on the amiguous word 'essence' in
our attempt to stir in our auditors a notion of what is for us a recurrent
feeling every time we see a game. But OUR "essence" should not be thought of
as THE "essence".

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