What's tone got to do with it?
-----Original Message-----
From: saul ostrow <[email protected]>
To: aesthetics-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri, Jun 8, 2012 5:01 pm
Subject: Re: Scott Fitzgerald quote problem
If you don't like tha tone - maybe it has to do with drinking and still
being able to hold up tow opposing two contradictory opinions without
caring
On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 4:31 PM, saul ostrow <[email protected]> wrote:
First rate does not mean your any good - it just means you rank
On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 4:17 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
Problem: I want to point out that much of this discussion has taken
place on the news part of aesthetics on line and that we are not
sup[posed to do this, as people subscribe to the news list because
they
don't want the discussion. If there is any further discussion on this
subject make sure that the address "[email protected]" does
not appear in the address part of your email. The address part is the
part that is headed by "to".
And I don't think being "first rate" has anything to do with being
able to see the value of something you don't like and wouldn't do and
still being able to look critically at your own work.
Kate Sullivan
-----Original Message-----
From: saul ostrow <[email protected]>
To: aesthetics-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri, Jun 8, 2012 3:50 pm
Subject: Re: Scott Fitzgerald quote and "the definition of an artist"
"The test of a first-rate artist is the ability to appreciate the
work
of
another artist that is
unlike their own while at the same time and still retain the ability
to
be
critical of their own work. As such they
should, for example, be able to see the genius in others and while
being
determined to question their own."
On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 3:17 PM, ARMANDO BAEZA <[email protected]>
wrote:
Maybe one who stays in balanced between
the yin and the yang in creativity.
ab
______________________________**__
From: Tom McCormack <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Sent: Friday,
June 8, 2012 11:09 AM
Subject: Scott Fitzgerald quote and "the definition of
an artist"
My son Dan is a film director and screenwriter in Hollywood. He
puts the
following question to me.
". . .Do you know of any famous
modification of Fitzgerald's quote --
"The test of a first-rate intelligence
is the ability to hold two opposed
ideas in mind at the same time and still
retain the ability to function"?
I have a vague recollection of somebody's
adjusting that quote to talk about
the definition of an artist.
Does this ring
any bell? If it was in some movie, I'll drop it."
In typical father fashion,
I lumbered Dan with all sorts of reservations about
the FSF line (which, in
fact, Dan shared) but I admitted it did have a certain
fuzzy provocativeness
(much that's provocative in art depends on an element of
fuzziness).
But I
had no recollection of the line's being altered to talk about the
definition
of an artist. Can any members help me (and Dan)?
Tom McCormack
ASA
New York
City
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Saul Ostrow
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Saul Ostrow
*Crtical Voices*
21STREETPROJECTS
162 West 21 Street
NYC, NY 10011
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Saul Ostrow
*Crtical Voices*
21STREETPROJECTS
162 West 21 Street
NYC, NY 10011
