Thus one cannot recognize and appreciate something without also
already knowing it. Or, switch the words around in any sequential
pairing to
obtain the same result or answer.

I think it's simpler than that-one goes along doing whatever-listening
to music, waking down the street,following some argument, and
everything is going good when all of a sudden some event appears and
it's all change, and think what you were doing over again. You don't
have to know what the event or whatever is,you just have to spot it and
go on from there.

-----Original Message-----
From: William Conger <[email protected]>
To: aesthetics-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, Jun 12, 2012 6:31 pm
Subject: Re: Scott Fitzgerald quote and "the definition of an artist"

Can one recognize -- appreciate -- the significance of something
without knowing
what it is?  To answer we need to define how we use the words
recognize,
significance, appreciate, knowing.  I'lll venture that the words mean:
 recognize = visual or verbal naming; significance = qualitative value
in a
predetermined context; appreciate = valuing the constituent features;
knowing =
naming and appreciating. These words link together forming a tautology
which is
ok since they reinforce or amplify one another without precisely
duplicating
each other.  Thus one cannot recognize and appreciate something without
also
already knowing it. Or, switch the words around in any sequential
pairing to
obtain the same result or answer.
wc


----- Original Message ----
From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tue, June 12, 2012 3:52:02 PM
Subject: Re: Scott Fitzgerald quote and "the definition of an artist"

 or whether they know if it is ethical-definitely should have been
there too.

-----Original Message-----
From: saul ostrow <[email protected]>
To: aesthetics-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, Jun 12, 2012 4:45 pm
Subject: Re: Scott Fitzgerald quote and "the definition of an artist"

addendum accepted - though in the sciences and in the law  I think:
whether
they know if its ethical or not

On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 4:28 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

The test of a first rate intelligence is to be able to recognize the
significance of something(a work of art, a strange bug, a
contradiction,)even when they are unsure whether they like it or not
or
whether they know what it is.


-----Original Message-----
From: saul ostrow <[email protected]>
To: aesthetics-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, Jun 12, 2012 3:12 pm
Subject: Re: Scott Fitzgerald quote and "the definition of an artist"

The test of a first rate in intelligence is to be able to recognize
the
significance of something (a work of art, music, etc.) even when they
are
unsure  whether they like it or not




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