There is a difference between recounting an interesting football game
and actively watching it play out. One is a matter of planning and the
other a matter of observation,which nobody gives a damn about until you
write it down.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom McCormack <[email protected]>
To: aesthetics-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu, Dec 12, 2013 5:20 pm
Subject: Re: Aesthetic feelings and other things

On Dec 11, 2013, at 9:30 PM, [email protected] wrote:

One of the differences between Cheerskep's football game and a
Shakespeare play is that the play was planned, is a description of
something as Shakespeare imagined it, and the football game is an
event
whose occurrence was not planned, was not imagined by a  coach or
player and in some respects is a matter of chance, where  the writer
of
the play may consider  chance as a force but doesn't use its actual
self in his play.  Either thing, play or game, may have a  sad or
happy
outcome, and may reveal facets of character in the players or actors.

I don't disagree with any of what Kate says here. (Except possibly her
notion
behind her line "where  the writer of
the play may consider  chance as a force but doesn't use its actual
self in his play."  With that one I'm unsure just what she's
thinking; but I
sense it's not essential to the point she wants to make with the
paragraph. I
myself might speak of "chance" as a FACTOR but not a FORCE, but for all
I know
Kate would have the same notion behind either use.

Many a non-fiction writer has attempted to describe a "real life"
occurrence
realistically and accurately, because the writer is convinced it's a
wonderful
"story".  More than once as an editor I encountered such a description
so
effectively done I found myself experiencing a feeling that was
indistinguishable from the "aesthetic" feeling I might get from an
"imagined"
story in a novel or play. Indeed, part of the power of the non-fiction
tale
came from one's realizing that the events it presented were not
planned, but
still unfolded in a form that achieved "dramatic" impact -- "aesthetic"
impact.

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