It sounds like once "gig" arrives everyone else instantly trys to match it to
save their customer base.
Then it sounds like it's a race to the bottom on price.
What is it the Meme says, prove me wrong?
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From: Matt Hoppes
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Google fiber bailing on Louisville
I do t believe it is. First one to the customer with reasonable service
levels and customer service and prices wins.
On Feb 9, 2019, at 6:52 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
Well, is it? Did AT&T beat Google to many of the homes?
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From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 5:02:02 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Google fiber bailing on Louisville
This an exception to that rule.
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 9, 2019, at 1:46 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <par...@cyberbroadband.net>
wrote:
so is it safe to now assume "the first one with fiber" does not
necessarily still win?
obviously ATT got there first so i guess they won....
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From: Colin Stanners
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Google fiber bailing on Louisville
Microfiber works for cheaper/faster/temporary runs or as you said on
private, controlled property.
On Sat, Feb 9, 2019, 12:24 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com wrote:
I think microfiber can work it is for the end-user hookup, and
(probably) entirely on their property. However, for a main line, or even a
trunk, it sounds like it's maybe just a bit too cheap.
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On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 10:15 AM Matt Hoppes
<mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
I thought the whole issue of 2” deep was brought up when it started
and was determined and said to be a non issue.
Either because no one would bother it or they would just rerun.
On Feb 9, 2019, at 12:27 PM, Chuck Hogg
<ch...@allpointsbroadband.com> wrote:
So here's why Google Fiber failed.
1. Microtrenches were done as little as 2" in some areas. When
roads got resurfaced, they ate up Google Fiber. Additionally, you could go
down a road and see foam coming up in some areas. Google Fiber contractors
were not what I'd call first rate. They were being pressured by the local
project manager to get things completed fast. Anyone in construction knows
that means quality can go to shit.
2. Anytime a permit was pulled for Google Fiber microtrenching,
AT&T owned the poles, so they deployed fiber within 2 weeks of a permit. The
work usually didn't commence for a month and by that time, AT&T had went
through and signed up a bunch of customers. So Google Fiber take rate was not
very high as AT&T built faster than them. AT&T project managers were given an
"unlimited" budget to beat Google Fiber on every project. Spectrum would also
upgrade those same areas to latest DOCSIS technology to deploy gigabit speeds
as well.
3. Lots of promises and not a lot delivered. They know the
plant does not have a long term life and don't feel like fixing things. So now
the city has to deal with it for the time to come.
That sad part is that a lot of my friends have it where it is
available to them. They like it a lot and don't want to go back to
AT&T/Spectrum.
On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 12:20 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Sure enough. But if it doesn't get USA attention, you may be
doing a lot of repairs. Sounds like that's what Google discovered.
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On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 9:15 AM Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com>
wrote:
I recently got a quote from a contractor for microtrenching.
$12/foot asphalt repair, duct and handholes included. Cheaper than boring.
From: Colin Stanners
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2019 10:01 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Google fiber bailing on Louisville
From the article: The tech giant acknowledged problems in
Louisville with a new method of digging shallower trenches to speed up the
installation times of the fiber optic cable. Google says the problems were
"disruptive to residents and caused service issues for our customers."
Sounds like they tried microtrenching and then discovered its
limitations, or how little city/construction crews worry about hitting fiber
when it's at pretty much street level/directly in their work area.
On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 10:43 AM Chuck McCown
<ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
And an unlimited supply of money does not help. Slow and
careful on a limited budget does work. Many on this list can prove it.
From: Bill Prince
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2019 9:38 AM
To: AFMUG
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Google fiber bailing on Louisville
Yet another confirmation that it's not as easy as it looks.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/googles-high-speed-internet-pulling-220020962.html
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