There was also an article from EFF that pointed out gigabit speeds would only
be possible along the fiber infrastructure, i.e. probably not in many rural
areas, and that if there is fiber infrastructure, the emphasis should be put on
FTTH.
It’s like Chuck says, you can serve lots of people, achieve high data rates,
and go long distances. But not at the same time. The various aspects of 5G
are being purposely mixed up to confuse people.
TMobile especially is pitching benefits for rural broadband as an incentive to
approve their merger with Sprint. But such things only happen if they are a
condition of the merger, like AT&T was forced to deploy FTTH to a certain
number of people as a merger condition, resulting in probably way more fiber
installs than Google Fiber ever did. But if they can get away with just saying
let us merge with Sprint and the result will be lower prices and more jobs and
rural broadband, with no enforceable agreement, then the promises will quickly
be forgotten.
It’s hard to explain that 5G is just the next mobile standard after 3G and 4G,
it is evolutionary not revolutionary, and it will be implemented in low band
like 600-800 GHz, mid band like 2.5 and 3.5 GHz, and E-band mmWave. If 5G
rural broadband happens, what they are talking about I think is mid band, so I
would claim WISPs have been using 2.5 and 3.5 GHz for years, along with 256QAM
and MU-MIMO. Occasionally there are articles claiming AT&T will deploy rural
mmWave using their airGig technique, but I’ll believe that when I see it.
From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Bill Prince
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Listened to a discussion on PBS today. I did not hear the whole thing, but it
was clear from the discussion that the cell sizes would have to be a lot
smaller. One guy said 10X the number of cell sites. They said that poorer
neighborhoods, less densely populated neighborhoods, and rural areas would most
likely be left out.
bp
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On 4/19/2019 2:08 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
I had a customer today say very authoritatively that 5G will give all rural
users gigabit speeds and wanted to know when we were switching to it (houses on
his road are 2 per mile).
Of course I also had a support call from a customer putting his email address
into Firefox to get his email, and another who couldn’t understand that her
domain registrar was asking her to create security challenge questions, not to
answer them. My customers are not necessarily the sharpest knives in the
drawer.
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LTE wasn't a twinkle in anyone's eye when Clearwire was deploying WiMax.
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By not choosing LTE, they lost the change of interop, volume manufacturing
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I don't think that had anything to do with it. There wasn't anything inherently
wrong with WiMax.
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That and that they hung their hat on WiMax (in the beginning).
bp
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On 4/18/2019 8:19 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
> It's hard to have a modest plan with LEOs. You need lots of birds to
> have coverage. Clearwire's failing was a lack of funding for
> significant coverage.
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