I don’t see it that way. The whole reason for 5 ghz backup is to go beyond 60G limitations. Operators want to push 1gig 60 ghz over 1km.. 5 ghz backup is the way to make it happen… but you need good rssi in 5 ghz for stable signal against interference… 24db gain min. for 5ghz PTP.
Gino Villarini Founder/President @gvillarini t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204 m: [https://image.ibb.co/ctQ7jU/aeronet-logo.png]<http://www.aeronetpr.com/> [https://image.ibb.co/noQeyp/inc500.png] <https://www.inc.com/profile/aeronet> [https://image.ibb.co/e4pBB9/fb-logo.png] <https://www.facebook.com/aeronetpr/> [https://image.ibb.co/nxuuW9/insta-logo.png] <https://www.instagram.com/aeronetpr/?hl=en> [https://image.ibb.co/jhSEW9/in-logo.png] <https://www.linkedin.com/company/aeronet-broadband-corp> [https://image.ibb.co/dqqq4U/tw-logo.png] <https://twitter.com/AeroNetPR?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor> [https://image.ibb.co/bAJcjU/yt-logo.png] <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCr2Q9WBrAYVm3Fn970Jd6VA> www.aeronetpr.com<http://www.aeronetpr.com> | Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, PR 00968 From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on behalf of Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> Date: Saturday, August 31, 2019 at 8:19 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment Yeah, but 11dbi is probably generally going to be enough considering the 60ghz side is only going to work on pretty short links anyway. Also, the 60ghz antenna is only 38dbi... I wonder what the physical size of this thing is. That's the same gain as the little Metrolinqs... the bigger Metrolinqs and the Mikrotiks are both 42dbi. On Sat, Aug 31, 2019 at 4:05 PM Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>> wrote: Bummer that antenna gain in 5 ghz is 11db… From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> on behalf of Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com<mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> Date: Friday, August 30, 2019 at 6:40 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment I'm guessing it's probably pretty similar to the MikroTiks, mechanically. On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 2:38 PM Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>> wrote: From the pics, doesn’t look like… the front has the waveguide/heatsink 60 ghz thingy.. Gino Villarini Founder/President @gvillarini t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204 m: Error! Filename not specified.<http://www.aeronetpr.com/> Error! Filename not specified.<https://www.inc.com/profile/aeronet> Error! Filename not specified.<https://www.facebook.com/aeronetpr/> Error! Filename not specified.<https://www.instagram.com/aeronetpr/?hl=en> Error! Filename not specified.<https://www.linkedin.com/company/aeronet-broadband-corp> Error! Filename not specified.<https://twitter.com/AeroNetPR?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor> Error! 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On 8/30/19 2:27 PM, Dan Spitler wrote: > Based on my poking around on the UniFi Building Bridge, these are > probably Peraso-based 802.11ad i.e. the same hardware as found in > IgniteNet's products. > > On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 8:59 AM castarritt . > <castarr...@gmail.com<mailto:castarr...@gmail.com> > <mailto:castarr...@gmail.com<mailto:castarr...@gmail.com>>> wrote: > > No, you need to wait for 802.11ow > > On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 10:49 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>>> wrote: > > I wonder if you could amp one up and turn it into an “active > denial” product... > *From:* Mike Hammett > *Sent:* Friday, August 30, 2019 9:42 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application > Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment > Yes, 60 GHz is unlicensed. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > <http://www.ics-il.com/<http://www.ics-il.com/>> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>><https://twitter.com/ICSIL<https://twitter.com/ICSIL>> > Midwest Internet Exchange > <http://www.midwest-ix.com/<http://www.midwest-ix.com/>> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>><https://twitter.com/mdwestix<https://twitter.com/mdwestix>> > The Brothers WISP > <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From: *ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > <af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > <mailto:af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>> > *Sent: *Friday, August 30, 2019 10:34:41 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application > Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment > > Is this unlicensed? > *From:* Gino A. Villarini > *Sent:* Friday, August 30, 2019 9:16 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application > Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment > > Test reports shows you the light baby! WiGig chipset FTW! > > A screenshot of a cell phone Description automatically generated > > *Gino****Villarini > *Founder/President > @gvillarini > t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204 > m: > > aeronet-logo <http://www.aeronetpr.com/<http://www.aeronetpr.com/>> inc500 > <https://www.inc.com/profile/aeronet<https://www.inc.com/profile/aeronet>> > fb-logo > <https://www.facebook.com/aeronetpr/<https://www.facebook.com/aeronetpr/>> > insta-logo > <https://www.instagram.com/aeronetpr/?hl=en<https://www.instagram.com/aeronetpr/?hl=en>> > in-logo > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/aeronet-broadband-corp<https://www.linkedin.com/company/aeronet-broadband-corp>> > tw-logo > <https://twitter.com/AeroNetPR?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor<https://twitter.com/AeroNetPR?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor>> > yt-logo > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCr2Q9WBrAYVm3Fn970Jd6VA<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCr2Q9WBrAYVm3Fn970Jd6VA>> > > www.aeronetpr.com<http://www.aeronetpr.com> > <http://www.aeronetpr.com<http://www.aeronetpr.com>>| Metro Office Park > #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, PR 00968 > > *From: *AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>>> on behalf > of Chuck Macenski > <ch...@macenski.com<mailto:ch...@macenski.com> > <mailto:ch...@macenski.com<mailto:ch...@macenski.com>>> > *Reply-To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > <af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > <mailto:af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>> > *Date: *Friday, August 30, 2019 at 10:52 AM > *To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > <af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > <mailto:af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>> > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-AF60 Application > Processed : Ubiquiti Inc. for New Equipment > > I am not going to comment on new products, but I will remind > everyone that we came from Motorola, not Cambium! > > On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 9:22 AM Colin Stanners > <cstann...@gmail.com<mailto:cstann...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Unfortunately the AirFiber 60 FCC submission does not > urrently include the user guide, so there's many things that > are still unknown about it, but some notes from my quick view: > > -The Ubiquiti Early Access store lists it for $300. At that > low price I'd be quite surprised if it was based on FPGA or > Ubnt's proprietay silicon - it's likely Wi-Fi chipset based. > This would be the first member of the AirFiber family that > is Wi-Fi chipset based, in which case I'd have questions > about its performance, especially in number of PPS, and > software stability. 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