That being said -- most of the e-mails I get involved circuits I'm on, but thanks to rings we don't go down.

On 9/6/19 12:33 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Imagine if you sent every customer e-mails about every outage every time on your network.



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*From: *"Matt Hoppes" <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
*To: *"Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com>, "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
*Sent: *Friday, September 6, 2019 11:31:24 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Fiber

That's what everyone keeps saying.... but my fiber provider sends me
e-mails every other week about pole fires taking out fiber, trees taking
out fiber, wind taking out fiber, etc.

On 9/6/19 12:30 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
 > When it's broken it can be expensive, but frankly it doesn't break that
 > often.
 > -Adam
 >
 > On 9/6/2019 12:29 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
 >> Except the contractor gets paid every time the fiber gets broken.
 >>
 >> On 9/6/19 12:18 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
 >>> If you've only got 2 or 3 people *total* then you'd be relying on
 >>> contractors a lot and basically just being an owner/GC.  Your capex
 >>> will be higher than with in-house labor, but console yourself with
 >>> the idea that the contractor only gets paid once, and you get paid
 >>> for 50 years.
 >>>
 >>> -Adam
 >>>
 >>>
 >>> On 9/6/2019 8:30 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
 >>>> People ask why I don’t do fiber. The following story pretty much
 >>>> sums it up. For those doing fiber, how do you do it with a 2 or 3
 >>>> man team?  We’d be run ragged.  How do you stay sain?
 >>>>
 >>>>
 >>>>
 >>>>
 >>>>
 >>>> Someone was logging up in Ogdensburg near Joe Hill and took a tree
 >>>> down which took another tree down which took another tree down which
 >>>> snapped off the side arms of the utility pole taking out the
 >>>> powerlines which burned the fiber underneath it.
 >>>>
 >>>>
 >>>> Last night about 11 o’clock I drove up there on my way home and
 >>>> found the Crown Castle guys trying to figure out where the fiber
 >>>> damage was, I talk to them for a moment and they were like yeah it’s
 >>>> like 2500 feet away from here but we can’t figure out where the
 >>>> fiber goes, I said follow me, so they got over there and started work.
 >>>>
 >>>>
 >>>> Zito was already over there fixing their fiber with about 10 guys
 >>>> and five trucks.
 >>>>
 >>>>
 >>>> I just spun back up there and as of this morning they (both
>>>> companies) are still trying to figure out why the fiber is not working.
 >>>>
 >>>>
 >>>> Add to this the utility easement is on the side of a mountain and
 >>>> not right beside the road. These guys had entire teams and haven’t
 >>>> fixed 1,500ft of fiber in 12 hours plus had to wait nearly 7hrs to
 >>>> even access the local due to power lines down.
 >>>>
 >>>>
 >>>
 >>>
 >

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