This is true (for us) as long as long as the wifi connection is the same speed or slower than the cellular. Deal with cable or fiber and it isn't the case.
My current home connection (no fiber and the trees took out my 900 mhz link), i have 100 meg spectrum that comes in somewhere around 55 meg. My cellphone wifi through verizon hits 11 meg almost everytime i try it. Our family has lake rental properties. You can give up getting a verizon signal there. ATT comes in but is flaky. Wifi through ATT comes in at about 5 meg. Our fixed wireless is 30+. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken Hohhof To: memb...@wispa.org Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 9:23 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] T-Mobile plans to cover 200 million consumerswith 5G by end of the year All the buzz is about peak speed from basestation to mobile device, but I think there are other factors, especially as regards competition for WISPs. I think data caps, prices, and backhaul capacity are big considerations that don’t get talked about much. I’m already seeing customers bitch or actually cancel their home Internet, saying “my cellphone downloads faster if I turn off WiFi”. This has nothing to do with 5G. They are correct that 4G LTE can typically download at 25 Mbps on a lightly loaded cell tower which is usually the case in rural areas. And people already have cellphones with data plans and increasingly use their phones for everything. So using cellular data is essentially free because they have it anyway. Maybe instead of cancelling their WISP service, they could increase their speed tier to something above our lowest speed, but that would cost money. Cellular doesn’t have speed tiers, it’s best effort. But for now, the customer does a speed test and decides it’s faster, at least faster than our lowest speed tier. I really wonder what’s going to happen if companies like T-Mobile/Sprint really go after the rural fixed wireless market. I look at the backhauls to cell towers in our area, and most of them have exactly the same as us, it’s a gigabit microwave link to another tower. Those are not easily upgraded to 10 or 100 gigabits. They would have to run fiber to all the towers, which is something they haven’t chosen to do yet. One tower we are on along with VZ Wireless, they put in handholes about 5 years ago like they were going to run fiber out from town, but then decided against it and ran a 6 GHz link from another tower 5 miles away. A few of their towers are fiber fed, but the majority are fed via microwave links. Then there’s the issue of data caps and pricing. If people really start ditching their cable or WISP broadband at home for 4G/5G cellular, how long before the speeds either plummet or they start imposing/enforcing data caps? I think most of the “unlimited” plans actually have fine print that says you can be slowed to 3G speed if the network is congested. Will the cellular carriers really build their infrastructure so people can use unlimited data at 5G or even 4G speeds, even while at home? It seems to me that data caps and premium pricing will come into effect. Maybe not in dense urban areas where they can really run fiber to every light pole. But what about WISP territory? For now though, I’m actually losing customers to cellular, and 5G has nothing to do with it, not even the 5G hype. There was a wave of this several years back basically because people had family share plans and could add a mobile hotspot for like $20/month, but most of them ran into the monthly data cap on hotspot usage. Now I think it’s driven partly by the shift to doing everything on your phone. So the kids whine that apps download faster on cellular data so the parents ask why are we paying for home Internet if it’s not making our phones faster? From: members-boun...@wispa.org <members-boun...@wispa.org> On Behalf Of Mike Wendy Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 8:52 AM To: memb...@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] T-Mobile plans to cover 200 million consumers with 5G by end of the year Or, “infini-G,” as Nathan put it. From: members-boun...@wispa.org <members-boun...@wispa.org> On Behalf Of Darin Steffl Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 9:39 AM To: memb...@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] T-Mobile plans to cover 200 million consumers with 5G by end of the year Nathan at Wisper has 9G guys!! So one of us needs to claim 10G On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 8:08 AM Kurt Fankhauser <lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote: There was a guy at WISPAlooza claiming to have 9G in his network now, lol On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 2:39 AM Forbes Mercy <forbes.me...@wabroadband.com> wrote: Ya well I have 6G! On Oct 24, 2019 9:37 AM, alex phillips <highspeedl...@gmail.com> wrote: Sounds like what they are saying is their 5G will be just as fast as what you have now 4G, just work in more places. https://electronics360.globalspec.com/article/14230/t-mobile-plans-to-cover-200-million-consumers-with-5g-by-end-of-the-year Alex Phillips CEO and General Manager RBNS.net HighSpeedLink.net 540-908-3993 _______________________________________________ Members mailing list memb...@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members _______________________________________________ Members mailing list memb...@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi Like us on Facebook ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Members mailing list memb...@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members
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