I could live with either AC or 48V, but 48V would be convenient.

I'm looking at the Ubiquiti EdgePoint EP-S16.  It takes a 54V DC input, has SFP+ uplink ports and twelve 802.3af/at ports.  I don't actually expect to use every port, but in theory you could  load that up to over 300W, and if I make sure to size the UPS for the switch then it's more idiot proof when people come along and add stuff.

Ubiquiti has a 54V UPS module now, and you can put in 2+0 150W power supplies for 300W total, but it's an indoor case and operating temp only down to 0c.  By the time I put that in a heated outdoor box it doesn't look too attractive anymore.

I'm very familiar with the Traco and similar products.  It would just be hard to beat $650 for a complete system using modular DIN components in a box.  There's also something to be said for the simplicity of one part on the BOM.

Of course I could use the smaller EdgePoint, but then I don't have the 10Gig uplink.

I'm checking with Cyberpower on what happens in an overload condition...maybe the guy who adds one AP too many will realize his mistake very quickly.

-Adam



On 12/19/2019 3:05 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

You are looking at 48VDC output, or AC with a 48V battery string?

Note that unit seems to have around 700 watt hours of batteries, not bad, but if you are running 300W or 600W of loads, it’s not going to give you much runtime without adding more batteries.

We have a couple Alpha Micro350 systems at some small sites, which looks physically similar, but that’s AC output.  We only use them at small sites because it’s not enough batteries for a large site.  Normally we would put a Traco TSP BCM48 and a TSP360-148 or TSP600-148 in the same enclosure with our other DIN rail equipment and maybe a bunch of 100 Ah batteries in a separate battery box.  Or maybe 4 x 22 Ah batteries in the same enclosure, if we don’t need a lot of runtime.

*From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
*Sent:* Thursday, December 19, 2019 1:33 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor UPS

hes building out UPS in a box

On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 1:30 PM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    Is there a particular item I should ask him about?

    On 12/19/2019 2:22 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

        talk to matt at CTI

        On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 12:27 PM Adam Moffett
        <dmmoff...@gmail.com <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:

            https://www.cyberpowersystems.com/product/fttx/outdoor/cs150u48v3/

            I tripped over this guy the other day.  They're $650-700
            retail and
            frankly, that's really not a bad price for a one-and-done
            48V outdoor
            power system.

            <whining>

            ....but 150W is pretty small.  I wish there was a 300W or
            600W option.
            Why does it seem like every product I want is a white
            whale and that
            every vendor has something that's like 90% of the way
            there, but not
            quite perfect?

            </whining>


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