Maybe it just reflects my customer base, but by far the #1 reason I hear for streaming instead of sat TV is cost. People say DirecTV is too expensive.
#2 reason is probably binge watching. From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 7:33 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The Future Think about how many residential customers no longer have satellite TV. They don’t like antennas and they like the semi al carte that streaming provides. With 8K tvs and more content daily the streaming BW is just going to go up and up and up. I think when fiber is compared to any wireless technology it will be the best value. The wireless providers are all going to have some kind of limit or cap on quantity. They cannot compete with a 1 GIG unlimited fiber connection for $50-$70 I seriously doubt Musk’s satellite will be able to compete with that. Or any so-called 5G provider. From: Jason McKemie Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 5:24 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The Future To qualify that a bit, I'm referring to residential users. There may be niche markets like HFT that will have benefits when using it. On Tuesday, January 21, 2020, Jason McKemie <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com <mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> > wrote: The difference being that this is a side project for one of the main businesses, not their primary purpose. At best I don't think this is going to be anything besides a better alternative to other satellite internet options. On Tuesday, January 21, 2020, Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com <mailto:darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> > wrote: Guys, lots of misinformation here. They are NO plans nor hints of integrating Starlink antennas into Tesla cars. It may happen but no one has hinted of this happening. All Tesla's have 3G or 4G modems already built-in to them along with WiFi. Updates are sent via WiFi first and after the fleet has received the updates, they eventually push it to cars via cellular data that haven't updated via WiFi. Regarding B2B backhaul, I don't believe you'll see this as an option anytime soon for WISP's or other ISP's. They're targeting residential and small businesses as well as government contracts. The cost if they did offer B2B backhaul services would likely be higher than fiber to your network. Please stop thinking this will happen as I bet it will not. They may offer a self install option but they'll also have a contractor to perform most installs for a cost is my guess. Maybe they'll send a self install kit for X price and if you can't get it working, they'll schedule a contract install for XX price. I'll also say that you should not doubt Elon's passion to achieve great things. I have a Tesla and it's a work of art and by far the best vehicle I've ever driven. 99% of people who have driven one also think this. Tesla is succeeding, SpaceX is on it's way there, The Boring Company is half done with their Vegas tunnel, and Starlink will likely be a viable competitor for us. On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 4:48 PM Ryan Ray <ryan...@gmail.com <mailto:ryan...@gmail.com> > wrote: Can you link that? What exactly were they testing? On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 2:36 PM Robert Andrews <i...@avantwireless.com <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com> > wrote: Somehow they passed a first review from US DOD... Can't be all smoke and mirrors in space... On 01/21/2020 12:18 PM, Ryan Ray wrote: > I'm still very wary of this. There seems to be a lot of over-promising > under delivering. In typical Elon fashion, no details but the world runs > with it and puts out all these data models that make it seem like the > second coming of christ. Customer CPE is a pizza box ufo <$200 and they > are starting in 2020, but there's no pictures or details. How is that > even possible? We're buying 450b at a more expensive cost and there > ain't no phased antenna with motors in it. > > Then all you read online is the cult following of spaceslax who takes a > twitter post as gospel and just keeps perpetuating the same tired > information. > > > > On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 10:02 AM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com > <mailto:part15...@gmail.com%20%0b> > <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > If the SpaceX Starlink system works at 50% of what it's hyped, it will > become the future of rural internet. Urban is still going to be > dominated (eventually) by fiber for the foreseeable future. Higher > speed > wireless will be very, very local. > > > bp > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > On 1/19/2020 6:29 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote: > > I don’t know why, but this evening got me thinking about > broadband delivery over the past 30 years and the future of broadband. > > > > First we had nothing, then along came dial-up and that was > amazing and many companies sprung up offering the service. Giants > like AOL and Prodigy. > > > > Then DSL and Cable came along as well as wireless and dial-up has > all but died. > > > > Now DSL is basically dead, cable and wireless have gone through > several iterations and we are seeing a push to fiber. > > > > What’s the possibility in the next 10 years cable and wireless > will be dead technologies with fiber at the fore front? Possibly. > > > > But then..... is fiber really future proof? We are talking about > investing hundreds of millions into fiber infrastructure, because > it’s “the future”. 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