ehh... I don't really care if it takes a week to fully recharge the
batteries. Long power outages aren't that common around here...

On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 12:55 PM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I had a number of sites with the TSP-600 + BCM48A.  If I recall correctly
> from the docs, it would use any surplus wattage to charge the battery.
>
> So 600W - LoadW = chargingW.
>
> With a 200W load that could take 4x100ah batteries from dead to full in 12
> hours.  I didn't think that was unreasonable charging time.
>
> I never had the 360W units.
>
>
> On 1/24/2020 1:14 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
> Sorry, I got the acronyms wrong.  I think I meant that at larger sites
> we’re using the BCM, or TSP-BCM, or whatever it’s called.  The one that
> controls the power supply and powers the loads at the battery voltage.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf
> Of *Ken Hohhof
> *Sent:* Friday, January 24, 2020 12:06 PM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com>
> <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Smaller DC PSU/Charger combo
>
>
>
> I don’t think so.  Or keeping mind that the BCMU is also providing a DC-DC
> converter function when it is running on battery, you could look for a 12V
> system and then a smallish 12-48 converter.
>
>
>
> Actually I would not run a 200 watt site off a BCMU or, for that matter, a
> single 12V battery unless it’s a really big battery.  The runtime off a
> single battery won’t be very long, and the recharge time off the BCMU will
> be even longer.  I only use the BCMU at small sites like you describe
> because the battery charging current is so low, it could take days to
> recharge the batteries.  If I need > 100 watts, I’m using the BMU.
>
>
>
> What size battery are you using, something like 100 Ah?  One thought would
> be to use 4 smaller batteries.  I have a lot of sites with 4 x 22 Ah
> batteries.  They fit in the bottom of our 24x30x10 NEMA boxes, and I prefer
> to series batteries rather than parallel.  4 x 22 Ah is roughly comparable
> to 1 x 100 Ah.  If you can’t fit 4 x 22 Ah, maybe 4 x 9 Ah.  I think I have
> at least one site with a BCMU and just a single 9 Ah battery, but I think
> that site also has a whole farm generator and the battery backup is mainly
> to cover the time for the generator to come online.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Josh Baird
> *Sent:* Friday, January 24, 2020 11:51 AM
> *To:* AFMUG <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Smaller DC PSU/Charger combo
>
>
>
> For micropops, we typically use some a Traco TSP-BCMU360 paired with a
> Meanwell SDR-240-48.  This is great, but it's a bit overkill for some very
> small micropops (1-2 AP, BH) that we are looking at deploying.  I really
> don't need ~220-240W that this configuration supplies.
>
>
>
> The challenge is that I don't want to use something like an AD-155C which
> would require me to use 4 batteries 12V to get 48V.  I like that the
> BCMU360 can supply a 48V load with just a single 12V battery.
>
>
>
> So - do I have any options for a smaller (physical footprint and output
> power) solution that requires just a single 12V battery that can supply a
> 48V load?
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