I'm asking out of curiosity.  My house is gas heat, so it's on a 15 amp
breaker (for the control board/thermostat).  My parents are on a mini split
and pellet stove.  Haven't seen a 40A hvac in a ~1300 sqft space.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:15 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

> It's likely that there isn't 40A load on the 40A breaker.  The A/C
> installer would have sized it high if they had any brains.   However, the
> full picture here is that a bigger generator might cost a few thousand
> more, but buying it too small means buying it twice.
>
> If you cut it too close you can have the engine have trouble starting,
> stall when loads change, and wear out sooner than expected.  IMO you don't
> want "big enough", you want "excessively big".  I know I've harped on this
> point before, but if your two hot legs are unbalanced then there's more
> resistance on one side of the generator than the other....the smaller the
> generator the easier it is to have problems with that.  How many people are
> bothering to check how well balanced the two hot legs are on their electric
> panel?  I got educated about that problem by an 8Kw generator with 13A on
> one leg and 2A on the other.  The engine ran noisy and stalled every few
> minutes, and we had to hastily rewire to fix it.  A bigger engine wouldn't
> have cared so much.  Chuck's suggestion of ((load + 50%) *2) is good sense
> for all of the above reasons.
>
> Also pick a Sunday morning sometime and shut off your main breaker for a
> few hours to see how well your generator carries everything.  You can turn
> the breaker back on if there's a problem, but if there's a problem during
> an outage you just have to suffer until it's over.
>
> -Adam
>
>
> On 2/10/2020 9:59 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
> Is that 40A HVAC an electric heater or something?  That's massive.
>
> I have a 30A two ton mini split that only pulls about 9 amps (110) at full
> throttle heat.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 9, 2020 at 9:04 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>> If your HVAC is 240 then you have more HVAC load than that generator can
>> pull on just that one load.
>>
>> 40 amps x 240 Volts is 9600 Watts.
>>
>> 7.5 kW generac will only deliver 31 amps at 240 VAC  And you really don’t
>> want to load a generator up that much.  50% is a good derating factor.
>> Also,  generators publish their power output at sea level.
>>
>> Knock off 3% for every 1000’ above sea level and 2% for every 10 degrees
>> above 70 degrees F
>> Rounding up, you are close to 5000’ so that is 15% lost for altitude and
>> in the summer at 110 degrees that is another 8%.
>> So you lose as much as 23% of capacity  on a hot summer day.  Worse if
>> you power it from natural gas.
>>
>> I would add up all your loads, add 50% for growth then double that figure
>> for not loading the generator too much and to account for derating.
>>
>> The installation is the expensive part.  Don’t scrimp on kW at this stage
>> of the game.  Sounds to me like you need a 20 kW or more depending on your
>> true HVAC loads.
>>
>> *From:* Sterling Jacobson
>> *Sent:* Saturday, February 8, 2020 6:04 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Generator for office
>>
>>
>> I need a smaller footprint generator for my 1300 sqr foot office.
>>
>>
>>
>> Was thinking of getting the 50A 7.5KW Generac 6998 for $2050.00 that
>> includes the 50A transfer switch.
>>
>>
>>
>> I think my breakers has several 20A switches and 40A for the HVAC.
>>
>>
>>
>> Not sure if this would cover the power needed for the whole unit, or just
>> the fiber cabinet/rack I have that has max 20A circuit to it?
>>
>>
>>
>> The next highest power draw is probably the HVAC and/or water heater.
>>
>>
>>
>> The lights only draw about 500W since I switched them all to LED.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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