I know that in the past it was done with permission.

I also know for a 100% fact that at least one of the Quids (or is it the
Quo) is still being honored.

I suspect this is more of a situation that WISPA continued on after Chuck
quit being involved and no one had a discussion about how to go forward.

On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 3:02 PM can...@believewireless.net <
p...@believewireless.net> wrote:

> I was honestly kind of shocked to see an Animal Farm reference not coming
> from Chuck. I assumed it was done with permission.
>
> On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 4:08 PM Mark Radabaugh <m...@amplex.net> wrote:
>
>> Now is not the time.  Staff is still dealing with the aftermath of
>> Dallas.   Give it some time.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> On Mar 17, 2020, at 3:50 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> You should attend more of the show, Chuck!
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 2:43 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, that was the main value in doing the show.
>>> I didn’t realize WispAmerica continued using the name after I quit
>>> supporting them.
>>>
>>> Perhaps I need to be having this discussion with them.
>>>
>>> There were supposed to be certain quid pro quos...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Ken Hohhof
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 17, 2020 11:30 AM
>>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium Webinar tomorrow
>>>
>>>
>>> One of the highlights … perhaps THE highlight … of Animal Farm was
>>> getting to throw questions at actual product managers and developers from
>>> Motorola (now Cambium).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sort of like “Question Time” in the UK Parliament.  Is that the one
>>> where they ask incredibly rude questions of the Prime Minister, or is that
>>> something else?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Matt Mangriotis via
>>> AF
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 17, 2020 12:02 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>>> *Cc:* Matt Mangriotis <matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium Webinar tomorrow
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chuck – In all seriousness, we don’t mean to offend, knock off or breach
>>> any kind of trust...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This *is* the WISPAmerica Animal Farm session (a direct descendant of
>>> yours and Jaime’s creation).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Everyone is welcome. If you’ve not attended the last couple of years, I
>>> always give you credit during my introduction.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Matt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 17, 2020 11:53 AM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium Webinar tomorrow
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I got a big angry lawyer letter for sharing a Moto/Cambium firmware
>>> link.  We should start a club :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 10:51 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> It was first held at the Airport Hilton, it was called AnimalFarm and
>>> that
>>> suggestion came from Jaime.  It was later held at several other venues.
>>> It
>>> was only the latter days where it was held at the fairpark.
>>>
>>> Motorola expressly and specifically disavowed any connection with
>>> AnimalFarm
>>> but they did send people.  I tried to get Mot to sponsor a users group
>>> meeting during the Tucson channel partner meetings and Mot said legally
>>> there were too many problems.
>>>
>>> So, I took it upon myself to rent the conference room and invite
>>> everyone to
>>> come.  We were the pigs taking over the farm from the farmer.  Thus
>>> AnimalFarm.  And thus trademarked by WB Manufacturing as it was our
>>> trade
>>> show and our main means of marketing each year.
>>>
>>> But not the first time I have been knocked off by Mot and its
>>> descendants...
>>> At least WispAmerica asked permission...
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Matt Mangriotis via AF
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 8:10 AM
>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> Cc: Matt Mangriotis
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium Webinar tomorrow
>>>
>>> Someone??? It's me, Chuck!
>>>
>>> We've called it Animal Farm since it was held at the Utah State
>>> Fairpark...
>>> you used to join us and speak about the history, etc. I miss that.
>>>
>>> In any case, we've virtualized it this year. As such, we'll record it
>>> and
>>> post it to our forum.
>>>
>>> If you'd like to attend, please visit our website to see what we're
>>> doing to
>>> virualize the WISPAmerica experience (and sign up to attend):
>>> https://www.cambiumnetworks.com/wispamerica2020/
>>> <https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cambiumnetworks.com%2Fwispamerica2020%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cmatt.mangriotis%40cambiumnetworks.com%7Caaa905dc6c194564888108d7ca93da8f%7C0e263e36340946228ac818d993e76eb6%7C0%7C0%7C637200608703498417&sdata=9aMmbQ7Sq017MKN782OJWF7xYovLBFDOC665hqZwxZo%3D&reserved=0>
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Matt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 8:49 AM
>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>>> Subject: [ External ] Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Webinar tomorrow
>>>
>>> Really, someone is using my AnimalFarm trademark without permission?
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> > On Mar 17, 2020, at 2:32 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account)
>>> > <li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > 
>>> > I just registered for the cambium "Animal Farm" webinar, however it's
>>> at 8
>>> > central which is 7am my time.
>>> >
>>> > Does anyone know if they record these for later playback?   I'm not
>>> > particularly thrilled about getting up that early, considering I've
>>> been
>>> > on the "go to bed at 4am" schedule recently.
>>> >
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