Well the landlord is getting  $1150.00/month now and ATC is trying to
re-negotiate it down to $700.00.

On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 12:57 PM Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com>
wrote:

> Kurt,
>
> I don't know what city you are talking about, but building out on every
> pole is exactly what VZN/Crown are doing elsewhere.  Like literally every
> 400' or so.  Cities can't stop them from deploying small cell but might
> slow them down.
>
> On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 11:45 AM Kurt Fankhauser <lists.wavel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Carl,
>>
>> This is the only "LTE" tower verizon has for at least 5 miles in all
>> directions. They have another tower outside of town about 2 miles away and
>> I don't think it is LTE as it was from the old 1x days. I doubt they could
>> get downtown coverage from that with LTE and get any speed at all. The
>> problem is they can't just build another tower downtown because the zoning
>> is so restrictive that no new towers can be built. Unless they plan on
>> rolling out a ton of 5G sites on Telephone poles I don't see theme getting
>> the coverage they have today. And there are no tall buildings around either.
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 12:28 PM Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'd look carefully at where VZN is in its small cell deployment in
>>> that market.  They are pulling off of a lot of the higher priced real
>>> estate in areas where the small cell network is complete.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 11:23 AM Mark Radabaugh <m...@amplex.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The tower companies are getting squeezed hard by the cell carriers.
>>>>  If American can’t cut back what they are charging Verizon it's pretty
>>>> likely Verizon will move off the site.   That might be hard to do but big
>>>> companies often fail to look at what it will cost them to replace it at any
>>>> given site.   They may very well have a blanket contract with another tower
>>>> provider that says they can order them up where they want and it’s the
>>>> other companies problem to figure out how to do it.
>>>>
>>>> As far as buyout or renegotiate - really depends on the owner and what
>>>> they value more.   Stable income, or a one-time payout.  Plenty of
>>>> municipalities can’t resist the up front cash since it makes the current
>>>> politicians look good and don’t worry about the fact that they screwed the
>>>> taxpayers for the next 100 years.   The other party will be in power by the
>>>> time the money is spent so I guess it doesn’t matter.
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>> > On Apr 8, 2020, at 12:15 PM, Seth Mattinen <se...@rollernet.us>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > On 4/8/20 9:04 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
>>>> >> Both those offers are less than what the current lease payments are,
>>>> the one time buyout will break even in 15-20 years. So what I'm wondering
>>>> here is American Tower trying to pull their bluff on saying they will "look
>>>> for alternative sites" ?
>>>> >> I don't really see them going through all the hassle to build
>>>> another site close to this one just to get a $400 cheaper/per month
>>>> payment. Verizon really needs this site downtown because there are no other
>>>> towers close to it and the city zoning is so strict that no new towers can
>>>> be built.
>>>> >> Any tips for dealing with the tower owner?
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Offer it to Verizon if ATC wants out of the lease? It seems unlikely
>>>> that ATC is going to pay all of VZ's costs to move everything.
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