I need to go back to the session we had with the Sonar help folks.   It had to 
do with monitoring and using the API to update fields on devices so that we 
could get better monitoring data into Sonar.   In working with the person at 
Sonar (I don’t have written down which one) we both agreed that it appear it 
should be working, but clearly wasn’t.   Their take was that this wouldn’t be 
corrected in v1.   We needed to wait for the v2 API.

We’d like to eliminate our external monitoring system (LibreNMS).   We’d really 
like all of the data to be in Sonar and go to one spot for SNMP based data.   
Preseem is our tool for latency, throughput, data volume and overall customer 
experience.   But all SNMP stuff would be nice to have in one spot.  What we’d 
really like to do is use the data pulled through SNMP and landing in Sonar and 
do some math on it and store it back to Sonar.   That would be ideal, but it 
doesn’t look like that is possible.

Regards,

David Coudron
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Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 12:38 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing

We’ve been able to figure out most of our things we need with v1 API, but it’s 
at the cost of an exponential number of API calls. This ends up being bad for 
both us and our sonar instance.  I think we tax it too heavily as we’re API 
intensive :)


On Apr 23, 2020, at 11:15 AM, Cameron Crum 
<cc...@murcevilo.com<mailto:cc...@murcevilo.com>> wrote:

David,

I'm curious what you can't do with the v1 API. I have yet to find something I 
haven't been able to help people with in custom integrations with Sonar's API. 
Obviously, things will change with v2, but I'd be curious to know what you are 
needing.

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 7:19 AM David Coudron 
<david.coud...@advantenon.com<mailto:david.coud...@advantenon.com>> wrote:
We see the same thing as Mike is referring to.  We would really like to get to 
v2.0.   There has been quite a bit of discussion about it and webinars saying 
it is ready and so on, but when you really press on the topic, you find out 
many of the necessary features aren’t ready and you can’t migrate.   We have 
been in this state for months, and it doesn’t seem like anything will change 
anytime soon.   Our recommendation is, make absolutely sure the current feature 
set works for you, do not assume you will be using v2.0 because that timeline 
isn’t set.

We want to move to v2.0 to take advantage of the new API stuff, as we’d like to 
do some simple integration that doesn’t work with the v1.x API.   We are also 
hoping we will see improvement in the stability of the monitoring in v2.0.   We 
have found that the monitoring in the current version isn’t nearly as reliable 
as Powercode and we have had to supplement it with another tool.

That being said, we can’t say enough about the integration with Preseem, as 
Preseem has been an indispensable addition to our toolset.   I imagine you 
could use Preseem pretty successfully without Powercode or Sonar, but the Sonar 
to Preseem integration makes it so easy to put Preseem in, and Preseem has a 
lot of value.   It is our most used monitoring and troubleshooting tool.

Regards,

David Coudron


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Mike Hammett
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 7:06 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing

No one I know is running 2.0 because it isn't finished and doesn't seem likely 
to be finished by fall.


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From: "Sterling Jacobson" <sterl...@avative.net<mailto:sterl...@avative.net>>
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 11:42:13 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing
Text to customer isn’t a feature yet.

Are you running v2.0 Sonar already?



From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sean Heskett
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 7:04 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing

if you only want to do billing Platypus is still around and is relatively 
cheap, but it is literally a billing platform only.

Sonar is a total CRM as well as business management platform...the whole 
enchilada.

-sean


On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 6:58 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
I used Plat years ago and was happy with it.
So glad to hear you are happy with Sonar.
Simon is a standup guy.

From: Sean Heskett
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 6:55 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing

Sonar is awesome, you won't be disappointed.

we started with platypus, moved to powercode, it was an upgrade from plat but 
was way too clunky and at the time powercode couldn't do RADIUS so, after 18 
months of trying to make our business model fit to the powercode way we moved 
to Sonar and haven't looked back.

Sonar is very forward thinking with their service and they have just about 
every integration under the sun you could think of (text to customer, fleet 
tracking, preseem QoS, snail mail marketing etc.)

-Sean




On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 5:59 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
I will probably be launching a new network this calendar year.  So at some 
point I will once again have to try to choose the best billing platform.

Leaking toward Sonar.  Have used Plat in the past.  Is Powercode still alive?
Opinions?
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