It was me. I said it to Archie On Sat, May 9, 2020, 6:59 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
> I have this recollection of a comic or movie character who would say “I’ll > give you your rights … and your lefts!” or something like that. I was > thinking maybe Dick Tracy. But the Google can’t find it, so I must be > mistaken. > > > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com > *Sent:* Saturday, May 9, 2020 6:47 PM > *To:* af@af.afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Philosopy of Tussis > > > > So you can cough at me from 6 feet away I guess. > > > > *From:* Robert > > *Sent:* Saturday, May 9, 2020 5:17 PM > > *To:* af@af.afmug.com > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Philosopy of Tussis > > > > I remember someone talking about the right to swing your arms around all > you want just until it strikes my nose, then your "rights" have abridged > mine. ( Or your rights get the response from my left )... That was what > prompted my question, actually... > > On 5/9/20 11:30 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > > Do we have a right not to be infected by others? > > Do we have a right not to be coughed on or sneezed on or breathed on? > > Do we have a right not to be pissed on or have someone smear their > blood/feces/snot on us? > > > > If we have these rights, then that means other people must do something to > preserve our rights. > > Distance, mask, not go around naked.... > > > > Do you have a right to not wear a mask around me? > > Do I have a right to ask you to wear a mask around me? > > How large is a personal bubble? > > Do you have the exclusive say as to how things go inside your bubble? > > > > *From:* Steve Jones > > *Sent:* Saturday, May 9, 2020 11:30 AM > > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability > > > > Lol, yeah, 6monrh, then 6 months, then 6 months. Get real. Its over > > > > On Sat, May 9, 2020, 11:47 AM Robert Andrews <i...@avantwireless.com> > wrote: > > And probably way less knowledge of how to treat sick people than we will > know in 6 months. It's a teeter-totter... > > On 05/09/2020 09:32 AM, Steve Jones wrote: > > That's why right now is the best time to get it. We have the highest > > availability of healthcare resources in my entire lifetime. > > > > On Sat, May 9, 2020, 10:07 AM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net > <af...@ics-il.net%20%0b>> <mailto:af...@ics-il.net <af...@ics-il.net>>> > wrote: > > > > Most of us will need to get it (or vaccines) to stop it's reach from > > getting to everyone. > > > > > > > > ----- > > Mike Hammett > > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>< > https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>< > https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>< > https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>< > https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>< > https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From: *"Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com%0b>> <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>> > > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com > <af@af.afmug.com%0b>> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com <af@af.afmug.com>>> > > *Sent: *Saturday, May 9, 2020 9:50:29 AM > > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability > > > > That's why right now is the best time to get it. Matt and the > > talking heads keep saying that we all will eventually get this, and > > they wouldn't lie. So right now when the hospitals are empty and 60 > > percent of healthcare staff is laid off is the ideal time to get it. > > Get it in the fall when it resources (again, matt and the talking > > heads have guaranteed this) are taxed due to flu season, and > > survivability drops. > > From day one I've said infection centers would be the absolute best > > tool to fight this thing. The younger, healthier, medically screened > > people go and get infected, and start treatment immediately. Its > > effectively the same thing as vaccination with a few more steps. > > Morons say "well we dont know that getting it will make you immune" > > which is fine and good, maybe it's not like 99 percent of other > > viruses. But guess what that means. It means that there will never > > be a vaccine since that's what vaccines to (make your body think > > you've had the disease). Matt and the talking heads cannot have it > > both ways, science doesnt allow it. > > > > I'm in the same boat though, I want to maximize the time with my > > kids. I have this new fresh one that's still just a lump of dough, > > I'd like to get to know what he cooks into. But I wont do this > > teaching these little bastards to cower in the corner because the > > government says to, especially when the governments demands dont > > match the so called science they're basing it on. And the little > > dough ball isnt developing an immune system, he will be that pale > > gray sickly kid with a doctors note for PE soon if I dont get him > > exposed to some community germs. I'm about to go drag him across a > > truck stop floor > > > > On Sat, May 9, 2020, 9:35 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com > <ch...@wbmfg.com%0b>> <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com <ch...@wbmfg.com>>> > wrote: > > > > I have not had nearly enough time with my grandkids yet. > > So, trying to optimize the chance of more time with grandkids. > > *From:* Lewis Bergman > > *Sent:* Saturday, May 9, 2020 8:18 AM > > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability > > Maybe. At this point, I couldn't care less. Get it, don't get > > it. I don't care anymore. > > On Sat, May 9, 2020, 9:07 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > > > > I modified all the doors I could so you don’t have to use a > > hand to open them. > > Put an auto flush valve on the urinal. > > We asked all the guys to try to do the 6 foot thing. > > Logging temps with an IR thermometer each morning and > > posting them on a white board is surprisingly reassuring in > > a way. > > None of this is expensive or onerous or an overreaction and > > will work for all kinds of communicable diseases. > > I don’t want them to bring it back to me. Everyone at my > > place is much younger than my wife and myself. Silly for > > those in a particular age demographic to not be as careful > > as they can. I also wear my seat belt, don’t smoke and try > > to keep my blood sugar and blood pressure low. To me this is > > just more of the same. > > *From:* Lewis Bergman > > *Sent:* Saturday, May 9, 2020 7:54 AM > > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability > > We changed nothing. No distancing, no work from home, no > > masks, no gloves. The only thing we are sick of is all the > > talk of covid. Workers comp covers this kind of thing and > > your ERA is based on the total experience of like industries > > which presumably would experience similar sickness rates. > > Don't let the fear of liability stop you from doing anything > > productive. > > On Fri, May 8, 2020, 5:41 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > > > > I never shut down. I build critical infrastructure. > > We distanced, made sure everyone was in their own > vehicle. > > Gave them all gloves and masks. Make sure everyone’s > > temperature is taken and logged each morning. > > If someone gets sick, who gave it to them and who gave > > it to that person. If you want to attempt to assign > > liability it would as difficult as doing slavery > > reparations in a fair manner. > > The can sue China. > > *From:* Robert > > *Sent:* Friday, May 8, 2020 4:20 PM > > *To:* af@af.afmug.com > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability > > Act of God? How would you deal with someone getting > > the flu or passing it on? > > > > On 5/8/20 3:05 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote: > > > > Any lawyer will tell you that waiver only goes so > far. > > > > On May 8, 2020, at 6:00 PM, Steve Jones > > mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Rotflmao. Waiver of liability. Literally that > simple > > On Fri, May 8, 2020, 4:55 PM Matt Hoppes > > <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: > > > > As we look to reopen our operations, the one > > thing that remains is liability. > > > > How are you all addressing the liability if > > either your tech gets someone sick (and they > > die), or someone gets your tech sick (and > > now you have a potential OSHA issue on your > > hands. > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com > > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com > > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com <AF@af.afmug.com>> > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com <AF@af.afmug.com>> > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com <AF@af.afmug.com>> > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com <AF@af.afmug.com>> > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > > > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > ------------------------------ > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > > ------------------------------ > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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