That was a nice video.  Very counterintuitive.

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 6:01 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Doug and Bob's Excellent Adventure - 2nd Try

They call it a Hohmann Transfer. They get into an orbit just below the ISS and 
orbit until they get out in front of the ISS. Then they turn around and let the 
ISS catch up to them.

Watch this video from about the 5:10 point.


bp
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On 5/30/2020 12:09 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

  I found it astounding to learn that during the first NASA manned docking 
test, the guys would give it some throttle and get farther away from the 
target.  Nobody had thought it through.  

  More throttle == faster == higher orbit == slower orbital period.  

  So you have to slow down to catch up if you want to dock.    If you are 
behind, you slow down until you get ahead and then speed up to raise up and 
slow down...

  From: Bill Prince 
  Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 12:53 PM
  To: af@af.afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Doug and Bob's Excellent Adventure - 2nd Try

  It's not quite like shooting a bullet. There is a window that they can 
maneuver within. It may have to do with the amount of propellant carried in the 
"garage" attached to the back of the crew dragon. There also has to be enough 
left in that to de-orbit. 


  I saw a series of diagrams somewhere (maybe on the SpaceX web site?) that 
illustrated all the various maneuvers at the different stages.

  The approach to the ISS is interesting in that there is an exclusion zone of 
sorts all around the ISS. They need to target to outside that zone until they 
make their final approach. Once they are in a parallel orbit just outside the 
exclusion zone, they can rotate and maneuver into the docking station. The crew 
dragon (and the cargo dragon) is that the whole operation is autonomous.




bp
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On 5/30/2020 11:39 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

    Guy on radio was saying SpaceX crew capsule has to be launched at a 
specific time to rendezvous with the ISS, sounds like shooting a bullet.  Same 
guy said Boeing design will have a wider launch window because it is more 
maneuverable.  Looking at photos they don’t seem that different.  Does this 
sound right?  Main difference seems to be the way they land, in water or on 
land.

     

    Not sure what happens to Boeing capsule if collapse of air travel on top of 
737 Max fiasco spells the end of Boeing as a company.

     

    From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com On Behalf Of Bill Prince
    Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 1:25 PM
    To: af@af.afmug.com
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Doug and Bob's Excellent Adventure - 2nd Try

     

     

    1522 EDT (AKA 3:22 PM)

    1422 CDT (AKA 2:22 PM)

    1322 MDT (AKA 1:22 PM)

    1222 PDT (AKA 12:22 PM)

    If you're not on daylight saving time, you know what to do.

     

bp<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 5/30/2020 11:18 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

      Just a reminder in case you forgot.

       






     

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