Yeah, I am pretty certain that if I was staying there and someone said I
had to buy wifi, I would tell them to pound sand. And if they then tried
to kick me out, I would drop a dime to the local constable, and after
that to my retained lawyer, he loves making money on that kind of monkey
business. He's written three OTARD letters over the years and loves
hearing from HOA's, haven't paid his fees for any of them and he made
enough $$ off the first one, which went to court, to pay his fees for a
long while. Yeah OTARD has teeth. We have a bunch of very badly
written HOA agreements here in my neck of the woods. The only one I
didn't fight was the stupid one my house is in, because you don't ... in
your own bed..
On 6/11/20 7:25 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Q: Does the rule apply to commercial property or only residential property?
A: Nothing in the rule excludes antennas installed on commercial property.
The rule applies to property used for commercial purposes in the same way it
applies to residential property.
Source: https://www.fcc.gov/media/over-air-reception-devices-rule
-----Original Message-----
From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 7:45 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber
I see. Well that’s illegal in the parks we manage and security would be over in
a flash.
I’m aware of continental. Which is interesting since OTARD doesn’t apply to
commercial.
On Jun 11, 2020, at 8:38 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
Deadheading bobtail. Happens all the time.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 11, 2020, at 5:37 PM, Matt Hoppes <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
wrote:
Again. Why would a semi be parking in the middle of the park?
Sure. It can be in a designated space. No one parks in the roadway to sleep.
On Jun 11, 2020, at 7:16 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
I guess you have not been in the sleeper of a nice large semi lately.
-----Original Message----- From: Matt Hoppes
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 4:42 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber
Why would a semi be parking in the middle of an RV park?
On Jun 11, 2020, at 6:35 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
I'm not an RV'er, but I thought it was somewhat common to have a portable or
roof mounted sat TV dish that even automatically aims itself. Like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Winegard-PL7000R-Playmaker-Portable-Satellit
e/dp/B074CPRJSD
Supposedly you can add a mobile dish to your home subscription so you don't have to pay
an arm and a leg for a couple months when you hit the road in summer. We have a farm
customer that uses their "mobile" dish at their scalehouse during harvest.
-----Original Message-----
From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 5:17 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber
So if a semi wants to park there and they have a nice mobile sat under the
radome, you going to knock on their sleeper and ask if they are watching TV?
-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Hoppes
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 4:13 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber
OTARD does not apply to someone else’s property. Normally the satellite dishes
are not mounted on your RV they are mounted on the land belonging to the camp
owner.
And 0TARD does not apply to commercial environments which a campground is.
On Jun 11, 2020, at 6:06 PM, Robert Andrews
<i...@avantwireless.com>
wrote:
How can you enforce no satellite dishes. Sounds like a clear violation
of FCC OTARD... You couldn't even tell if we were using our satellite
dish it's fully enclosed and not visible.
On 06/11/2020 02:48 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
Why are you doing fiber?
We have a 300 unit RV park where everyone is required to stream
over the Internet, no satellite dishes are allowed.
It works absolutely fine and everything is back hauled wirelessly
to the sectors that cover several RV campers.
On Jun 11, 2020, at 5:03 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah I'm assuming WiFi would be everyone's first choice, and
that's part of why I'm thinking WiFi from the pedestal. I just
thought it would be nice to have the option to plug in a cable.
I did find a comms enclosure that bolts onto the back side of
the RV power ped. http://www.rvparksupplies.com/p/ACCESSBOXPHONECABLE/.
<http://www.rvparksupplies.com/p/ACCESSBOXPHONECABLE/>
Waiting for them to send me more details, but I think that might
give me a place for the ONT, and incidentally there appear to be
two keystone jacks in it. My two reasons for suggesting this
approach are that each RV gets their own WiFi instead of sharing
it with everybody around them, and if there was ever a law
enforcement issue we could track the usage to a particular site rather than just
"somewhere in the park".
On 6/11/2020 4:54 PM, Robert Andrews wrote:
As an "RVer" I will say that we are all set up for WiFi connections and
doing a hardwire would be something that we _never_ plan for. Don't
even carry and ethernet cable...
On 06/11/2020 01:30 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
If you run fiber to RV sites, what do you put in at the site?
I'm imagining I'd end with a WiFi enabled ONT in a box, on a
post next to their power and water hookups. I'd want the
campers to be able to plug Ethernet in at the box if they have the wherewithal
to do so.
And if they don't then they have their own private WiFi right
outside their RV.
....of course I could get little Hoffman boxes and put this
together, but I'm betting someone must have made a product for this already.
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