Or use a sanitizing wipe to handle such surfaces..   In China they say a disposable tissue is enough.   I like the idea of using sanitizing wipes because I feel like I'm leaving the surface more disinfected than I found it.

On 6/26/20 2:01 PM, Bill Prince wrote:

So far, the probability of picking up the virus from "objects" is relatively low. There is apparently not enough of a viral load to cause an infection. You need to be in close contact with an infected person for > 15 minutes, and with no masks to get enough of a viral load.

But if you do encounter "high touch" items like keypads, doorknobs, etc., just carry a small bottle of hand sanitizer.


bp
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On 6/26/2020 12:47 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

I noticed for the first time today a sign at a fast food drive-thru asking customers in cars to wear masks.  I actually would worry more about the money or credit card I am handing them.

*From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
*Sent:* Friday, June 26, 2020 2:30 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
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They have used the polarized light and florescent sprays to show the mask greatly limits the spread.

*From:*David Coudron

*Sent:*Friday, June 26, 2020 1:25 PM

*To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike

Sometimes I wonder if low tech masks are efficient germ spreaders.   Basically the infected person breathes into/coughs into/sneezes into mask which holds droplets infected with virus.   Since the mask doesn’t filter virus sized particles, the mask wearer breathing out is like putting a small fan behind an infected surface, spewing micro droplets into the air.  If no mask, larger droplets fall faster rather than float in the air.    Similar to what Steve is saying, but for non-N95 masks.  If air is getting in, air is also getting out through the mask pushing virus out.    Seems like the fancy air diffuser the boss has to make the house smell good, but for virus.   No science behind this at all, just musing 😊

Regards,

David Coudron

*From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
*Sent:* Friday, June 26, 2020 2:05 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
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the irony of the N95 masks with ports is they have the unfiltered low impedance exhaust port, actually "spreads" the disease more since the air velocity is increased.

Just call your meeting a protest anyway, then you dont need to wear a mask since this doesnt spread at protests

On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 1:26 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:

    Chuck, are these business meetings with your own employees, or
    outside people?  Can you hold the meetings outside and stay 6
    feet from each other?  Although being outside probably increases
    the probability of shouting and, if you have allergies, sneezing.

    Imagine being a nurse/doctor/dentist/etc and wearing one of the
    tight-fitting N95 masks (plus probably goggles) for a 12 hour
    shift, day after day.  The ones that leave marks on your face.

    *From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
    <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
    <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
    *Sent:* Friday, June 26, 2020 1:17 PM
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    <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
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    Indian love song.  Splat.  That was one of the all time funniest
    scenes in a movie ever.

    *From:*Bill Prince

    *Sent:*Friday, June 26, 2020 11:45 AM

    *To:*af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>

    *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike

    That and "It's a Small World". Gawd, I want to run into a hot
    lava pit when I hear that.

    bp

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    On 6/26/2020 10:26 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

        I’ve occasionally seen people wearing clear face shields. 
        Not sure if those are effective and/or allowed instead of
        masks.  Kind of like a personal sneeze guard.  Now I’m having
        a mental picture of the aliens in Mars Attacks with their
        heads exploding inside their space helmets.  Whenever I hear
        the Kars for Kids song I feel like my head is going to explode.

        *From:*AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com *On Behalf Of *David
        Coudron
        *Sent:* Friday, June 26, 2020 12:10 PM
        *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike

        You can officially count me among the haters of wearing
        masks.   Did it way too much as a kid on the farm when
        working in dusty environments or with insulation or other
        items you didn’t want to breathe in.   The novelty of wearing
        a mask wore off long ago……

        Regards,

        David Coudron

        *From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
        <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of
        *ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
        *Sent:* Friday, June 26, 2020 11:59 AM
        *To:* af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
        *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike

        With almost every thought or opinion there will be someone
        with the opposite preference or opinion.

        However, one particular feeling might be universally held
        amongst humans.

        I am finding I really hate wearing masks during business
        meetings.

        I will do it until the virus is no longer a factor, but I do
        not like masks.

        I do not like to wear a mask over my mouth and nose.

        I am sure someone somewhere would say they do, but that would
        be an odd person.

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